Traded my 1199 today and got this today...

Get the 1299, better looking and more fun to ride with more midrange power. Jap bikes are ubiquitous

After installing the DP rear sets and Compworks integrated tail lights and BST wheels, I decided to take the bike on a test run on a fast sweeping and tight slow twisties canyon run and rack up some miles and to really assess the difference between the 1199 and 1299. Things I really notice and stood out stood out was:

1. Wider power band -I didnt have to work the gears not nearly as much as I had to on the 1199. I didn't have to keep the revs /gear and be mindful of keeping the revs/gears in the power band specially on the corner exits. this made it extremely more comfortable/enjoyable and not working hard or concentrating as much.

The bike jumps off the corner with a lot more power and aggression than the 1199 but doesn't get tied up in knots.

2. Lots of traction on the rear. I think this is due to the new swing arm position provides less anti-squat on the rear (The R guys with the adjustable swing arm, -4 is the bomb!)

3. Tighter turn on the slow tight corners I think this is due to the the 24 degree versus 24.5 on the 1199.

4. The Semi active suspension works well as advertise the default setting is comfy on the street but too soft with aggressive riding in the canyons. the harder setting one up from the default is perfect for aggressive canyon riding (for me) this will depends on the riders weight. I did notice the the gyro's working on each corner, the suspension was consistent no matter how hard or soft you brake before the corners. Amazing technology and it's something I need to get used to.

5. ABS- worked as advertise not any different that the 1199 but I actually had to use it yesterday. I was going to the dealer and a lady stopped hard at a green light, I thought is was her fault but it wasn't because a kid running across the crosswalk while it was red I was preparing to do a stoppie but the ABS kicked in worked well. I didn't have the balls to check in a lean someone else can review that. Please let me know how that works out.

6. The DQS Up/Down are accurate and smooth. I dont know how many of you just dump the clutch and let the slipper take over on the 1199 as I did but im sure this will save my clutch. Its a blast!

7. The paddle switch is another blast! tried it with all three setting Wheelie control, EBC and traction control and works as advertise I know it will be fun on the track. I like keeping it on TC I had fun around some corners turning it down to back the rear in and then turning it back up on the fly. I must of went through the same corners five times to play with it.

8. Most of all the bike is freakishly fast.

9. The Ohlin electronic Steering Dampener is something most people over look I played with it a bit and you can feel the dampener adjust as speed increases and decreases. Makes steering a lot easier and you don't have to worry about the settings when going form cruising to aggressive riding.


Things I don't like:

1) The exhaust system looks like crap! You can only purchase the 1299 Akrap Exhaust through Ducati now from my understanding Akrap signed a deal with Ducati for the 1299 and Its approx $5k. I was told the 1199 Akrap exhaust wont fit the 1299 due to length of the headers. The slips will work.

2) The 20mm wider screen helps from side to side but the low profile stock screen still flows air right to your forehead. Corsa screen is still needed.

3) I forgot how much heat the subframe puts out. I'm definitely putting the Shift-Techs carbon Frame covers back on.

4) Barely get a wallet in the tail section. Volume looks the same but you have to slide the black piece under the red rear top L/R fairings to get it on. you cant just smash something in there anymore.

5) mirrors still looks at your elbows but you can actually see whats behind you when you tuck your elbows closer to you. They still vibe like crazy you cant make out if a cop is behind you or not You can only tell if its a car.

6) Stock Rear Sets are still crappy although the pegs are not slippery they are in a comfy position for commuting/tall people and long commuting but too low for any type of spirited riding. Changed to the DP performance they put you knees up to the tank perfect. FYI The lowest setting on the DP performance rear sets is higher than stock setting.


I think Ducati hit a home run with this bike and fixed a lot of issues I had with the 1199. Its still a superbike so some of the quirks riding in the street is still there although its a lot smoother than the 1199. I cant wait to track this thing and see what my consistant lap time will be at Big Willow. I am expecting quicker lap times not because on power but because of how easier it is to ride and maintain the lines. I wont be doing much engine mods/gearing changes as you don't have too unless you want a track only/race bike.

ScrapperX said:

I think Ducati hit a home run with this bike and fixed a lot of issues I had with the 1199. Its still a superbike so some of the quirks riding in the street is still there although its a lot smoother than the 1199. I cant wait to track this thing and see what my consistant lap time will be at Big Willow. I am expecting quicker lap times not because on power but because of how easier it is to ride and maintain the lines. I wont be doing much engine mods/gearing changes as you don't have too unless you want a track only/race bike.

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I agree with pretty much every single thing you said. Great review and your experience mirrors mine.

Cheers and thanks for all the input.

SuperDuc29 said:

Thanks for sharing your rare opportunity with us. Was there any opportunity to try the Aprilia RSV4 Factory?

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Ive rode the RSV4 factory plenty of times its a sweet bike, compact, handles well sounds good but a little on the heavy side. I was waiting for the RSV4 RF suppose to come out mid year. I hope they made some weight adjustments.

What a awesome review Scraper!!! Thank you very much for the feedback... let's see some pix with the BST's.

So the 1199 compwerkes ITL fits on the 2015.

ScrapperX said:

I didn't have the balls to check in a lean someone else can review that. Please let me know how that works out.

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The salesman I'm working with got a trip to Spain so he could ride the 1299. It poured rain the entire time he was there. The Bosch engineers set up a course to do hard braking in a turn. 40-50mph sweeper with a soaked track.

The salesman told me that the Bosch dudes said "Lean over hard in the corner, pull the clutch and grab a handful of brake" .

He said pulling on the brake as hard a he could was a complete non-event. The bike just slowed and stopped with ZERO drama.

Of all the features he talked about Saturday when I stopped by, he just kept raving about how good cornering ABS works on this bike......

Chris

Awesome review. Thanks!

Can the DP rearsets be used for GP shifting without changing the quickshift module?

McLaren12C said:

Can the DP rearsets be used for GP shifting without changing the quickshift module?

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Yes absolutely. The DP rearsets come with everything you need for GP shift.
See the classified section- i have a brand new set $1100 shipped to your door!. wont find them anywhere near that price from a dealer!

Terrible review Scrapper......I wasn't going to bother testing the 1299 and wait for the next model but on reading this I might have to rethink, very well written mate, sounds like it is quite a big change to the 1199.
So thanks again mate, I'm guessing this will cost me about 10K for an upgrade.

Cheers
JT

ScrapperX said:

The Semi active suspension works well as advertise the default setting is comfy on the street but too soft with aggressive riding in the canyons. the harder setting one up from the default is perfect for aggressive canyon riding (for me) this will depends on the riders weight. I did notice the the gyro's working on each corner, the suspension was consistent no matter how hard or soft you brake before the corners. Amazing technology and it's something I need to get used to.

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Thanks for the review, still trying to decide if it's worth $6k over the base suspension (for the street). My dealer has an S sitting on the floor but it's a whopping $27k OTD

fzr100098 said:

Thanks for the review, still trying to decide if it's worth $6k over the base suspension (for the street). My dealer has an S sitting on the floor but it's a whopping $27k OTD

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Suspension, headlights, wheels, steering damper, auxiliary hand controls, carbon mudguard, and more...

IDK what you mean "$6K over for base suspension"

Whoopazz said:

What a awesome review Scraper!!! Thank you very much for the feedback... let's see some pix with the BST's.

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Here is a few pics of now. Those of you who know me knows I got a long way to go with some mods. This time no Engine mods

BST Carbon Fiber Wheels
Brembo HPK Rotors
Ducati Panigale Performance rear sets (New)
Comp works Integrated Tail Light
Compwerk License plate holder with light (New)
Evo Tech bar Ends (From an earlier mod on my 1199)
CRG Carbon Fiber levers (From an earlier mod on my 1199)

Looks good !!!

fzr100098 said:

Thanks for the review, still trying to decide if it's worth $6k over the base suspension (for the street). My dealer has an S sitting on the floor but it's a whopping $27k OTD

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I agree with whitePani but It depends on your budget but you probably can get some Ohlins FGRT 203, TTX36 MK II or GP, HID's (or 1199 LED's on Ebay) and Ohlins SD040 Steering dampers for under $6K and have a damn good bike like I did with the 1199. But honestly I believe the semi active suspension mixed in with the gyro is worth going to the S. It really convinced me if they were the 1199S suspension I would done the base all over again, but the 1299 suspension softens the ride on the street pretty good and stiffens it while aggressive riding on the fly without trying to figure out how many clicks you need to go through the canyon/track and back on the street. I think $27K OTD is worth it.

I need to stop reading these threads.

Reading these threads is making my wait a bit ridiculous.

She's looking good Scrapper. The more times I see your Pani's the more I like the BST wheels.