V4 ‘23 - First Ducati. What comes stock with the bike? First mods suggestions?

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SBK-SP said:
Well, I’ve been riding liquid cooled bikes since the mid-1980s with no “guards” and haven’t had a single failure event, ever. I do inspect my bikes after every ride and straighten any fins bent by the bugs that hit them. I suppose if you’re prone to riding until something breaks, then you may have an issue at some point. There is very little margin on the V4 heat exchangers. Ask a serious Ducati race team about cooling. These aren’t dirt bikes eating the rooster tails of the fast guys in front.

People are stupid and can do their own thing as desired. Hell, there are guys and girls cutting off their generalist in a futile attempt to be something else, so they can certainly configure their shot however they want.
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There has been no change in running temp on my bikes running radiator guards, ever. I haven't done any scientific comparisons but the temp was fine before installing them and afterwards the running temp while riding was exactly the same, and my climate isn't chilly.
I have always run rad/oil guards because you just never know when someone in front is going to flick up a stone or whatever that can end up leaving you stranded possibly in the middle of nowhere. The only failure i've ever suffered was an oil cooler on a monster that leaked oil enough that my rear tyre felt awful so i pulled over to check it, that was when they put it down under the horizontal cylinder, right behind the front wheel, stranded, needed a van to collect me and the bike, and a new cooler, i'm lucky the oil didn't cause a fall.

Some people do more harm than good though, i've seen all sorts of things used as guards and often the ties that go through the fins are so tight they tear them and distort the cooling tubes, but if you invest in a quality product and install it properly from my experience there are no down sides.
 
Loony888 said:
There has been no change in running temp on my bikes running radiator guards, ever. I haven't done any scientific comparisons but the temp was fine before installing them and afterwards the running temp while riding was exactly the same, and my climate isn't chilly.
I have always run rad/oil guards because you just never know when someone in front is going to flick up a stone or whatever that can end up leaving you stranded possibly in the middle of nowhere. The only failure i've ever suffered was an oil cooler on a monster that leaked oil enough that my rear tyre felt awful so i pulled over to check it, that was when they put it down under the horizontal cylinder, right behind the front wheel, stranded, needed a van to collect me and the bike, and a new cooler, i'm lucky the oil didn't cause a fall.

Some people do more harm than good though, i've seen all sorts of things used as guards and often the ties that go through the fins are so tight they tear them and distort the cooling tubes, but if you invest in a quality product and install it properly from my experience there are no down sides.
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I agree that all guards are not created equal and I don’t have direct knowledge of the variety specifics.

As for actual temps, they aren’t displayed in numbers, only bar ranges, so you could have quite a large difference with no visible change in bars displayed. The most vulnerable functional scenario for overheat is in the relatively slow traffic areas after a freeway, track, or backroad blast.

I’m happy to just let the topic die as people have different perspectives based on their experience. If you want guards, do guards and be happy.
 
Steven31371 said:
They only get wooden feeling if you don’t match the right brake MC with the Calipers, for example you put an RCS 19 Corsa Corta on the Stylema Calipers.

Go with the RCS 17 and it matches perfectly, nice firm feel but not wooden, plenty of feeling to it, and you can adjust the travel to how you like it, but even in its lowest setting it’s way better than the spongy feel of the one that comes with the bike.

I bought a Streetfighter 1st and upgraded the MC before I even rode the bike much, so it was all I knew, then I traded the Streetfighter for the Panigale that had the stock MC on it, was so bad going back to the stock MC that I changed it to the RCS 17 immediately. I would argue that you don’t really need to upgrade your brake system at all on these bikes, just that brake MC.
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RCS 17 Corsa Cota or just the RCS 17?

Do TWM or OEM levers work with the Brembo RCS 17 Corsa Cota or RCS 17? I'm thinking in terms of spare parts.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
RCS 17 Corsa Cota or just the RCS 17?

Do TWM or OEM levers work with the Brembo RCS 17 Corsa Cota or RCS 17? I'm thinking in terms of spare parts.
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There's a variety of replacement levers but they're RCS specific... I believe OEM replacements won't fit.

Corsa Corta are marginally more expensive but offer adjustable bite points... Well worth the extra so definitely my choice out of the two.
 
SBK-SP said:
I agree that all guards are not created equal and I don’t have direct knowledge of the variety specifics.

As for actual temps, they aren’t displayed in numbers, only bar ranges, so you could have quite a large difference with no visible change in bars displayed. The most vulnerable functional scenario for overheat is in the relatively slow traffic areas after a freeway, track, or backroad blast.

I’m happy to just let the topic die as people have different perspectives based on their experience. If you want guards, do guards and be happy.
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Yeah well the panigale (with the temp bars) isn't my only bike, nor is it the only bike i've ever fitted rad guards to..... Some actually have temperature readouts so i KNOW that the radiator/oil cooler guards DO NOT affect the temperature of the engine.

You can let the topic die now, seeing as you're talking rubbish....
 
Loony888 said:
Yeah well the panigale (with the temp bars) isn't my only bike, nor is it the only bike i've ever fitted rad guards to..... Some actually have temperature readouts so i KNOW that the radiator/oil cooler guards DO NOT affect the temperature of the engine.

You can let the topic die now, seeing as you're talking rubbish....
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Lol... no need to take the topic personally 😂

I value both opinions...

Rad guards on street bike, no guards on track bike 👍
 
I’ve had stones or other items damage radiators in both road and track.
If you run a budget where you just renew damaged items then I understand not bothering.
But on the track the bike is either moving fast after warm up or stopped at the end of the laps. I ran a radiator and oil guard and in 30 degrees heat at portimao circuit it didn’t get overly hot. In fact the fans didn’t kick in until I had stopped, plus their activation temp has been lowered to 95.
 
Loony888 said:
Yeah well the panigale (with the temp bars) isn't my only bike, nor is it the only bike i've ever fitted rad guards to..... Some actually have temperature readouts so i KNOW that the radiator/oil cooler guards DO NOT affect the temperature of the engine.

You can let the topic die now, seeing as you're talking rubbish....
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Yeah, no worries. I’m down to only 5 bikes now, so maybe you have more? Anyway, your rubbish comment is well, rubbish. Maybe you missed my comment about experience and perspective? Ya’ll have fun now!
 
bp_SFV4 said:
RCS 17 Corsa Cota or just the RCS 17?

Do TWM or OEM levers work with the Brembo RCS 17 Corsa Cota or RCS 17? I'm thinking in terms of spare parts.
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+1 for the RCS 17 Corsa Corta…brake feel is such a subjective thing that you need to be able to adjust it, both the Corsa Corta and regular RCS are miles better than the stock unit, but you can really fine tune it to YOUR sweet spot with the Corsa Corta version. I also have the remote adjuster that runs over to the clutch side. You can adjust lever feel (firmness/softness) on the lever, the remote adjuster lets you adjust where the range of motion of the lever is.
 
I love my stock brake feel, until I start racing (never) it will do just fine unless I feel like blinging it out. These upgrades are all nice to have but sometimes people appear to have missed the fact that Ducati make a pretty good bike out of the box that you can literally ride to the track as is and do a respectable lap time without a single "upgrade"
 
Steven31371 said:
+1 for the RCS 17 Corsa Corta…brake feel is such a subjective thing that you need to be able to adjust it, both the Corsa Corta and regular RCS are miles better than the stock unit, but you can really fine tune it to YOUR sweet spot with the Corsa Corta version. I also have the remote adjuster that runs over to the clutch side. You can adjust lever feel (firmness/softness) on the lever, the remote adjuster lets you adjust where the range of motion of the lever is.
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TBH, with my brake lever since I have banana fingers I tend to run them full out or maybe two clicks in. Clutch I run fully out.

Paul G said:
I love my stock brake feel, until I start racing (never) it will do just fine unless I feel like blinging it out. These upgrades are all nice to have but sometimes people appear to have missed the fact that Ducati make a pretty good bike out of the box that you can literally ride to the track as is and do a respectable lap time without a single "upgrade"
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I think at my next track day, this Sunday, I'm going to try the fixed suspension. I humbly admit I'm still a novice at track riding and I think you have to be a pretty high level for the Dynamic setting to be consistent on the track. Any real complaints I have about how it handles are likely due to me being slower than I really could be in a given sector or turn and not anything the bike is doing.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
TBH, with my brake lever since I have banana fingers I tend to run them full out or maybe two clicks in. Clutch I run fully out.


I think at my next track day, this Sunday, I'm going to try the fixed suspension. I humbly admit I'm still a novice at track riding and I think you have to be a pretty high level for the Dynamic setting to be consistent on the track. Any real complaints I have about how it handles are likely due to me being slower than I really could be in a given sector or turn and not anything the bike is doing.
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Same thing, I adjust the movement of the lever almost full out, then one or two finger the brakes on the last knuckle joint.

Yeah run fixed susoension and make sure your tire pressures are dialed in and the bike will feel more consistent and stable, run ABS 1, DWC 1, DSC 1, and set the engine breaking to the lowest setting but not off and the bike will feel much more consistent to you.

Do you have the bike sprung right fir your weight? That made a big difference getting the right springs for my big ass with regard to the bike feeling more consistent and stable.

Also if you aren’t trail braking yet dedicate several sessions to just easing into that, I find the trail braking into the corner entry actually makes tip in etc feel more stable and controlled.

It’s not hard, people over think it, brake hard in a straight line and ease off the brake at the same speed you lean the bike, as you tip in begin to release the brake as you lean so that by the time you’ve reached full lean for that corner your off the lever.

Don’t separate the lean from releasing the brake, it’s all one integrated smooth motion that when you do it right feels completely natural and flowy.
 
I totally understand the concept of trail braking and readily apply it. It's very natural. I don't get the mystique behind it. I suppose I came to knowledge in the trail breaking era, so it just seemed like the thing to do.

Bike is sprung for my weight, and I'll adjust preload before putting it on the trailer. I generally measure in street clothes with a 25lb weight to duplicate riding gear.Trying to adjust preload in a garage when its 90F in riding gear is pretty miserable.

I'm going to start logging tire pressures before and after along with an IR reading of track temps along with ambient from whatever weather app.

Steven31371 said:
Yeah run fixed susoension and make sure your tire pressures are dialed in and the bike will feel more consistent and stable, run ABS 1, DWC 1, DSC 1, and set the engine breaking to the lowest setting but not off and the bike will feel much more consistent to you.
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I'll give that a go.
 
SBK-SP said:
Yeah, no worries. I’m down to only 5 bikes now, so maybe you have more? Anyway, your rubbish comment is well, rubbish. Maybe you missed my comment about experience and perspective? Ya’ll have fun now!
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oooooh! you have FIVE bikes! well good for you! does how many bikes you own count for something?

Here's my 5 as well then, and not one has ever overheated, so how about that!
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Loony888 said:
oooooh! you have FIVE bikes! well good for you! does how many bikes you own count for something?

Here's my 5 as well then, and not one has ever overheated, so how about that!
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No lattes here.

Waiting, with baited breath, for SBK-SP photo response.

You got this SBK-SP! All you need, is a latte, and a bike, in the same picture!
 

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