V4 ‘23 - First Ducati. What comes stock with the bike? First mods suggestions?

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Steven31371 said:
Get the bike sprung to your weight and get the SAG, suspension, and ergonomics setup properly for your size and weight, and call it a day lol
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Also, a nod to getting a tail tidy setup (cause fucksake Ducati should clean that weird obtrusion up themselves) and a radiator guard. You’ll need some tank pads to grip the tank.

For mostly street riding you don’t need it, but an upgraded brake Master Cylinder will firm up the brake feel.
 
RBryant said:
Hiya, just got the call that my bike is arriving in a couple of weeks - equal parts excited and anxious. As it’s my first ducati, was trying to find details on what actually comes stock along with the bike but to no avail. E.g: rear seats, rear foot peg, manual, etc?

Also would like some informed input from current owners on what would be your key mods from day 1? I’m likely putting off on an exhaust till at least the break in is done, but have got the following ordered through the dealer to be installed when it arrives. Not really a fan of any of the tail-tidy options, closest is the NRC but still feels like it can be better. Bike is mainly for canyon rides, street with the occasional track day*
  • Radiator and oil guard
  • Rear tank guard and peg delete
  • Paddock stand
  • Frame sliders
  • Tank pads
  • Tank grips
  • Brake lever guard
Would ppf on the bike be a worthwhile mod?
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I recommend against the rad & oil cooler guards. They all block airflow to these heat exchangers and the engine will run hotter than intended. Other bikes may get away with them, but the V4 Ducatis do NOT.
 
I've been preaching software over hardware for a hot minute. I don't practice it, cause reasons.

Without a doubt, the track is where these things are meant to be. To the point, I'd buy a Multi V4 if I wanted to mainly ride on the street.
Steven31371 said:
For mostly street riding you don’t need it, but an upgraded brake Master Cylinder will firm up the brake feel.
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Write about that more. I'm fully stock as far as ABS, master and caliper. I find it hard to modulate the brake pressure because the lever feel is soft. The distance traveled per lever pressure or movement isn't linear. Guys write about the wood feeling lever, but I suspect that's an easier way of doing it. The lever feel is hard, but the rider is VERY aware of the pressure they are applying.
 
SBK-SP said:
I recommend against the rad & oil cooler guards. They all block airflow to these heat exchangers and the engine will run hotter than intended. Other bikes may get away with them, but the V4 Ducatis do NOT.
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Interesting. Have you done a before and after with or without them?
 
bp_SFV4 said:
I've been preaching software over hardware for a hot minute. I don't practice it, cause reasons.

Without a doubt, the track is where these things are meant to be. To the point, I'd buy a Multi V4 if I wanted to mainly ride on the street.

Write about that more. I'm fully stock as far as ABS, master and caliper. I find it hard to modulate the brake pressure because the lever feel is soft. The distance traveled per lever pressure or movement isn't linear. Guys write about the wood feeling lever, but I suspect that's an easier way of doing it. The lever feel is hard, but the rider is VERY aware of the pressure they are applying.
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They only get wooden feeling if you don’t match the right brake MC with the Calipers, for example you put an RCS 19 Corsa Corta on the Stylema Calipers.

Go with the RCS 17 and it matches perfectly, nice firm feel but not wooden, plenty of feeling to it, and you can adjust the travel to how you like it, but even in its lowest setting it’s way better than the spongy feel of the one that comes with the bike.

I bought a Streetfighter 1st and upgraded the MC before I even rode the bike much, so it was all I knew, then I traded the Streetfighter for the Panigale that had the stock MC on it, was so bad going back to the stock MC that I changed it to the RCS 17 immediately. I would argue that you don’t really need to upgrade your brake system at all on these bikes, just that brake MC.
 
SBK-SP said:
I recommend against the rad & oil cooler guards. They all block airflow to these heat exchangers and the engine will run hotter than intended. Other bikes may get away with them, but the V4 Ducatis do NOT.
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Never noticed any extra heat at all. How hot will it get with a hole in your radiator you think? Or a bunch of bent fins?
 
Thank a lot guys! Some great shouts, have added quite a few to the immediate list - engine & clutch cover/suspension setup/front bobbins.

Liked the Evotech stuff so that’s what I’ve gone with mostly, except for the GB racing covers and ducati brake lever guard.

Have added some of the others for the KIV once I’m more familiar with the bike. Love the look and sound of the termi blacked out titanium slip on and upmap for exhaust. Mirrors was the other - but only really like the stealth Rizoma ones - but wanna give the stock ones a shot before hauling them off.
 
Steven31371 said:
Also, a nod to getting a tail tidy setup (cause fucksake Ducati should clean that weird obtrusion up themselves) and a radiator guard. You’ll need some tank pads to grip the tank.

For mostly street riding you don’t need it, but an upgraded brake Master Cylinder will firm up the brake feel.
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That ugly std number plate set up is there for legalities, not to make it look pretty, some countries like the number plate to be behind the back edge of the rear wheel.......

I have the D/P one on mine and i've been stopped, not a word about the full Akra system with the dB killers removed, nope, just nonsense about the number plate location, ironically, here they changed the law and what i have is actually legal!
 
Loony888 said:
That ugly std number plate set up is there for legalities, not to make it look pretty, some countries like the number plate to be behind the back edge of the rear wheel.......

I have the D/P one on mine and i've been stopped, not a word about the full Akra system with the dB killers removed, nope, just nonsense about the number plate location, ironically, here they changed the law and what i have is actually legal!
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Tbf, I got stopped on the Aussy highway, 6km over. Aussy traffic are strict!
 
Ds760 said:
Never noticed any extra heat at all. How hot will it get with a hole in your radiator you think? Or a bunch of bent fins?
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Well, I’ve been riding liquid cooled bikes since the mid-1980s with no “guards” and haven’t had a single failure event, ever. I do inspect my bikes after every ride and straighten any fins bent by the bugs that hit them. I suppose if you’re prone to riding until something breaks, then you may have an issue at some point. There is very little margin on the V4 heat exchangers. Ask a serious Ducati race team about cooling. These aren’t dirt bikes eating the rooster tails of the fast guys in front.

People are stupid and can do their own thing as desired. Hell, there are guys and girls cutting off their generalist in a futile attempt to be something else, so they can certainly configure their shot however they want.
 
SBK-SP said:
Well, I’ve been riding liquid cooled bikes since the mid-1980s with no “guards” and haven’t had a single failure event, ever. I do inspect my bikes after every ride and straighten any fins bent by the bugs that hit them. I suppose if you’re prone to riding until something breaks, then you may have an issue at some point. There is very little margin on the V4 heat exchangers. Ask a serious Ducati race team about cooling. These aren’t dirt bikes eating the rooster tails of the fast guys in front.

People are stupid and can do their own thing as desired. Hell, there are guys and girls cutting off their generalist in a futile attempt to be something else, so they can certainly configure their shot however they want.
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Your claim is definitely valid I think. However my CBR650R I just sold had a nick in the radiator - very minor leak, basically droplets - just in the past month, and that was with the radiator guard in place. It was still under warranty so managed to get it changed with some sweet talk at my dealership.

Considering the road conditions at my state I think the rad guard warrants a looking into, but my main takeaway from even your original statement was to keep an eye on the temps with the guard on and if it was out of whack definitely take it off and check for improvements.

Cheers for the input, defo learnt something new.
 
Re radiator guards, It all depends on your situation and on track you dont need one. Ive ridden mine on gravel roads, been behind a bike on tarseal that kicked up a stone so hard that it fractured the nose fairing so I recommend them. Also there are different makes, different mesh sizes, its actually really easy to DIY a free flowing radiator guard. The idea to stop a stone making a hole not keep the fins in perfect condition

 
SBK-SP said:
Well, I’ve been riding liquid cooled bikes since the mid-1980s with no “guards” and haven’t had a single failure event, ever. I do inspect my bikes after every ride and straighten any fins bent by the bugs that hit them. I suppose if you’re prone to riding until something breaks, then you may have an issue at some point. There is very little margin on the V4 heat exchangers. Ask a serious Ducati race team about cooling. These aren’t dirt bikes eating the rooster tails of the fast guys in front.

People are stupid and can do their own thing as desired. Hell, there are guys and girls cutting off their generalist in a futile attempt to be something else, so they can certainly configure their shot however they want.
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There has been no change in running temp on my bikes running radiator guards, ever. I haven't done any scientific comparisons but the temp was fine before installing them and afterwards the running temp while riding was exactly the same, and my climate isn't chilly.
I have always run rad/oil guards because you just never know when someone in front is going to flick up a stone or whatever that can end up leaving you stranded possibly in the middle of nowhere. The only failure i've ever suffered was an oil cooler on a monster that leaked oil enough that my rear tyre felt awful so i pulled over to check it, that was when they put it down under the horizontal cylinder, right behind the front wheel, stranded, needed a van to collect me and the bike, and a new cooler, i'm lucky the oil didn't cause a fall.

Some people do more harm than good though, i've seen all sorts of things used as guards and often the ties that go through the fins are so tight they tear them and distort the cooling tubes, but if you invest in a quality product and install it properly from my experience there are no down sides.
 
Loony888 said:
There has been no change in running temp on my bikes running radiator guards, ever. I haven't done any scientific comparisons but the temp was fine before installing them and afterwards the running temp while riding was exactly the same, and my climate isn't chilly.
I have always run rad/oil guards because you just never know when someone in front is going to flick up a stone or whatever that can end up leaving you stranded possibly in the middle of nowhere. The only failure i've ever suffered was an oil cooler on a monster that leaked oil enough that my rear tyre felt awful so i pulled over to check it, that was when they put it down under the horizontal cylinder, right behind the front wheel, stranded, needed a van to collect me and the bike, and a new cooler, i'm lucky the oil didn't cause a fall.

Some people do more harm than good though, i've seen all sorts of things used as guards and often the ties that go through the fins are so tight they tear them and distort the cooling tubes, but if you invest in a quality product and install it properly from my experience there are no down sides.
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I agree that all guards are not created equal and I don’t have direct knowledge of the variety specifics.

As for actual temps, they aren’t displayed in numbers, only bar ranges, so you could have quite a large difference with no visible change in bars displayed. The most vulnerable functional scenario for overheat is in the relatively slow traffic areas after a freeway, track, or backroad blast.

I’m happy to just let the topic die as people have different perspectives based on their experience. If you want guards, do guards and be happy.
 
Steven31371 said:
They only get wooden feeling if you don’t match the right brake MC with the Calipers, for example you put an RCS 19 Corsa Corta on the Stylema Calipers.

Go with the RCS 17 and it matches perfectly, nice firm feel but not wooden, plenty of feeling to it, and you can adjust the travel to how you like it, but even in its lowest setting it’s way better than the spongy feel of the one that comes with the bike.

I bought a Streetfighter 1st and upgraded the MC before I even rode the bike much, so it was all I knew, then I traded the Streetfighter for the Panigale that had the stock MC on it, was so bad going back to the stock MC that I changed it to the RCS 17 immediately. I would argue that you don’t really need to upgrade your brake system at all on these bikes, just that brake MC.
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RCS 17 Corsa Cota or just the RCS 17?

Do TWM or OEM levers work with the Brembo RCS 17 Corsa Cota or RCS 17? I'm thinking in terms of spare parts.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
RCS 17 Corsa Cota or just the RCS 17?

Do TWM or OEM levers work with the Brembo RCS 17 Corsa Cota or RCS 17? I'm thinking in terms of spare parts.
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There's a variety of replacement levers but they're RCS specific... I believe OEM replacements won't fit.

Corsa Corta are marginally more expensive but offer adjustable bite points... Well worth the extra so definitely my choice out of the two.
 
SBK-SP said:
I agree that all guards are not created equal and I don’t have direct knowledge of the variety specifics.

As for actual temps, they aren’t displayed in numbers, only bar ranges, so you could have quite a large difference with no visible change in bars displayed. The most vulnerable functional scenario for overheat is in the relatively slow traffic areas after a freeway, track, or backroad blast.

I’m happy to just let the topic die as people have different perspectives based on their experience. If you want guards, do guards and be happy.
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Yeah well the panigale (with the temp bars) isn't my only bike, nor is it the only bike i've ever fitted rad guards to..... Some actually have temperature readouts so i KNOW that the radiator/oil cooler guards DO NOT affect the temperature of the engine.

You can let the topic die now, seeing as you're talking rubbish....
 

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