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seemed like he liked it mechanically better too
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Who knows if they made any other changes, but they've only mentioned that some of the gears were taller.
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it is so this will either be a mild update and include the upgraded enhancements from
The 22 V4 engine or be a full out next gEN bike
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I doubt its a next generation bike. They'd be hyping the ....... out of that if it were the case.
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No V4R in 2022, but there is an SP2
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What's SP2 ?
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2023 will bring an all new V4R
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https://ducatiforum.com/threads/2022-v4-sp2-specs.45780/SP updated with new specs from the 2022 V4S
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I hope the NEW V4R will rev higher, it's not revvy enough yet???
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Haha, why????
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Hopefully it will have the tranny update, they have a whole new transmission in the works that has the smooth shifting function of the MotoGP bikes, that couldn’t previously be done on a street bike because the trannies only lasted one race
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Will be cool if they actually bring it to market.
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Would be cool but it won’t be a huge jump in performance… it will make shifts marginally smoother and quicker.
It will probably make shift or ignition cut strategies easier to tune but again won’t be a leap in functionality.. although the uninterrupted shift sequence as in MotoGP (N-1-2-3-so on) would be quite practical.
The tech has been out for a while in cars i.e. DCT, PDK etc… but I don’t think MotoGP uses that specifically and it’s hard to know for sure because no body has disclosed the details but if I were to guess it’s probably something like xtrac’s instantaneous gear change system. It does away with the need for two clutches and uses a ratchet mechanism.
Read more here… Xtrac Instantaneous Gearchange System - The DCT Killer? - Asphalt & Rubber
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It will probably make shift or ignition cut strategies easier to tune but again won’t be a leap in functionality.. although the uninterrupted shift sequence as in MotoGP (N-1-2-3-so on) would be quite practical.
The tech has been out for a while in cars i.e. DCT, PDK etc… but I don’t think MotoGP uses that specifically and it’s hard to know for sure because no body has disclosed the details but if I were to guess it’s probably something like xtrac’s instantaneous gear change system. It does away with the need for two clutches and uses a ratchet mechanism.
Read more here… Xtrac Instantaneous Gearchange System - The DCT Killer? - Asphalt & Rubber
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What Ducati is purported to have developed is away around the tiny bit that disengages the gear that wears rapidly so that it doesn’t wear rapidly, and therefore can be used on street bikes.
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That's an interesting article but his explanation that there's a neutral between gears could be misleading. It's not a neutral like in a conventional 1-2 upshift, but yes there's a minute "neutral phase".
What could be said is that the actual "seamless" aspect of the shift is a result of pre-selected gears already spinning at a suitable speed to vehicle speed rather than the next gear having to speed up or down when selected. It's like the stairs vs an escalator lol, on the stairs there's no neutral when u step up but there's torque variation.
The updated extension of that article has more details...
https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/how-seamless-transmissions-work/
What could be said is that the actual "seamless" aspect of the shift is a result of pre-selected gears already spinning at a suitable speed to vehicle speed rather than the next gear having to speed up or down when selected. It's like the stairs vs an escalator lol, on the stairs there's no neutral when u step up but there's torque variation.
The updated extension of that article has more details...
https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/how-seamless-transmissions-work/
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https://www.boxrepsol.com/en/motogp-en/what-is-the-seamless-gearbox-of-motogp-engine/
Unless its cheap to produce with a solid engineering solution to enhance durability and decrease service intervals I cant see it happening.
Unless its cheap to produce with a solid engineering solution to enhance durability and decrease service intervals I cant see it happening.
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The article I posted earlier mentions that it’s rumored to be used in the coming Honda RR and Yamaha R1. Or is it referring to DCT? [emoji848]
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2011, yeah its not happening in a big hurry!
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