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miker1 said:

Any exiting news from this event ?

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miker1 - I am preparing a full review of my experience with the RapidBike Race module on my 2012 1199. The event went very well. The lead engineer of the RapidBike Module, Daniele, was there from Italy and helped with the tuning. Here is a picture of Daniele (left) and Cycle Pro owner Yaman Turan tuning an 1199S on the Horst Performance Dynojet 250ix.








The 1199S in the top picture had a MWR air filter, Full Termi exhaust and of course the RapidBike Race module. It put out 179 hp at the rear wheel, which was 2 more than a 2013 S1000RR (stock) that was dyno'd an hour later. It was among the top 4 bikes on the dyno that day. A 2012 ZX-10R with a cat-delete slip-on, Ivan Wire Mod, and RapidBike Race put out 177 as well. It was about 96 degrees F ambient temperature out, with very high humidity and bikes that had been on that same dyno back in January in 60-degree weather were down about 10 hp.

What I don't have yet are pictures of how smooth the dyno runs are. The AFRs are so optimized around 13.2 AFR it is amazing, like almost a flat line. This translates into super-smooth throttle response and of course an optimized power curve. It only takes a couple of dyno runs to see how the bikes with stock O2 sensors are running with the RapidBike module making immediate corrections. With the RapidBike software interface it is very simple to make fuel adjustments at different throttle openings to shape the curve to whatever the bike responds to best. The 1199 doesn't have gear-dependent mapping but with bikes like the ZX-10R and S1000RR, it is normal to have gear- and throttle position-dependent maps for the utmost in smoothness and power gains.

I'll post dyno runs and AFRs in the new thread.

Thanks Mate.
I would like to hear more about the auto tune function with the stock lambda. My previuos experience has taught me that they can only read 14.7 afr. I see that the only variants on setup is middle, rich and lean. I am really nervous that the reapid module would be tuning to 14.7.
I see that when ectivated it starts making changes quickly and seems to be more controlled than the Dyno Jet auto tune. I am just nervous of the limitations in adjustment.

What do I have to disconect to run my bike on the dyno? Pair ?I have the use of our local dyno, I normally do my own tunnig ( auto tune first and then just check it on the dyno) but maybe this time I should check on the dyno first?

I had my bike on the track this weekend and the Rapidbike module was tuned at Cycle Pro by Daniel on Friday. Unfortunately, the first few session were follow the leader at a much slower pace. I really on had one session at about 80% of my all out pace. I'm going back this weekend to open her up, so you will get a full report Saturday or Sunday night.

miker1 said:

Thanks Mate.
I would like to hear more about the auto tune function with the stock lambda. My previuos experience has taught me that they can only read 14.7 afr. I see that the only variants on setup is middle, rich and lean. I am really nervous that the reapid module would be tuning to 14.7.
I see that when ectivated it starts making changes quickly and seems to be more controlled than the Dyno Jet auto tune. I am just nervous of the limitations in adjustment.

What do I have to disconect to run my bike on the dyno? Pair ?I have the use of our local dyno, I normally do my own tunnig ( auto tune first and then just check it on the dyno) but maybe this time I should check on the dyno first?

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Mike, no worry at all. Yes, narrowband O2s don't have the fidelity of widebands, but the genius of RapidBike is that they have figured out how to make fine adjustments - I mean as little as 1% in each fuel map cell - with the OEM O2s. It is pretty amazing. The AFR sniffer does not lie and shows accurately the AFR can be controlled with simply just the module and no other changes. In the software you can adjust how wide a range it can automatically adjust, and the default is 8% maximum in each cell - so if you're O2 goes bad you're not going to instantly go ultra-lean/rich.

Here is a photo of one of my earliest runs after the RapidBike Race was installed. The Blue line (178 peak) was done in 5th gear back in January in 60-degree F, low-humidity weather. The Red line (169 peak) was done in 4th gear a week ago in 90-degree F, high-humidity weather. Both on the same dyno with the same operator. Look at the shape of the curve and how much that midrange dip was filled in. The AFR still needs some fine tuning but look how straight the line is in the upper third of the RPM range. With some simple adjustments you can get the entire rev range wherever you want on either side of stoichiometric.





Here is a dyno run from this past weekend, again done in 4th gear. Look at the shape of the curve - so smooth it looks like an S1000RR instead of an 1199's typical 2-stroke-style jump at 8,000 rpm. Result!

Thanks for sharing all the information so far JeffD.

I wanted to inquire if you would mind sharing the settings you are using for the Autotune in the Rapid Bike module, as I got an EVO module, and wanted to try the auto tune feature, but was a bit unsure of where to start off in the settings department?

This is awesome!!! My rb race will be here on friday. (thanks Leon). Yamana pre tuned it so should run ok out of the box. Cant wait to get rid of the jerkiness.

hyperdrive said:

This is awesome!!! My rb race will be here on friday. (thanks Leon). Yamana pre tuned it so should run ok out of the box. Cant wait to get rid of the jerkiness.

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Cool. You will enjoy the smooth power curve.

mordor said:

Thanks for sharing all the information so far JeffD.

I wanted to inquire if you would mind sharing the settings you are using for the Autotune in the Rapid Bike module, as I got an EVO module, and wanted to try the auto tune feature, but was a bit unsure of where to start off in the settings department?

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Mordor, I'm traveling this week but when I get home I'll get a screenshot of my RapidBike tuning software screen and see if that helps. The fact that it autotunes constantly should allow you to just simply ride away and let the software optimize for you. This is probably the best way since your motor, mods, atlitude, humidity, etc. will likely be different from mine, and that's the beauty of the system - it tunes your bike specifically.

Also, I'm running the RapidBike Race and I don't know if the trims will be different because of hte new ignition maps that come with it.

Have fun and report back your experience.

Would be cool to see your settings for the autotune, I have started to play around with the module on the bike for the last few days and am currently using the following settings for the Auto-Adaptivity/Autotune:

O2Sens = 43
Start RPM = 2500
Max Enrichment = +5
Max Enleanment = -5
RBo2sens = active (not sure if this should be active or not, I am just using the OEM 02sensors)


First impressions are so far, it seems to have noticeably smoothed out the engine in the 2500-6000 rpm band, which could be a bit rough on the standard Ducati map especially in 1st and 2nd gear. Above 6000 rpm, I can't say that I can feel any difference sofar.

mordor said:

Would be cool to see your settings for the autotune, I have started to play around with the module on the bike for the last few days and am currently using the following settings for the Auto-Adaptivity/Autotune:

O2Sens = 43
Start RPM = 2500
Max Enrichment = +5
Max Enleanment = -5
RBo2sens = active (not sure if this should be active or not, I am just using the OEM 02sensors)


First impressions are so far, it seems to have noticeably smoothed out the engine in the 2500-6000 rpm band, which could be a bit rough on the standard Ducati map especially in 1st and 2nd gear. Above 6000 rpm, I can't say that I can feel any difference sofar.

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PLEASE! do not adjust O2 sensor = 43 , this has been calibrated for the type of O2 sensor being used on Panigale. However

Max Enrichment and Enlean. can go +10, -10 no prob.

RBo2 box in Auto adaptivty screen must be checked on, bottom left of the screen and when you make the changes click on apply on bottom right before leaving the screen.

if you have any questions at all e-mail me your auto adaptivity screen shot and I can walk you thru.... [email protected]
and THANK YOU for using RapidBike
Y.T.

Ride report on my newly installed Race module..At first didnt seem to do anything, Rode about 15-20 miles at varying speeds, accel rates... Then things started to become noticeably smoother!!! Rode some more trying to got through entire rev ranges (safely) on the street. After about 125 miles stopped and grabbed a bite to eat.. On the way back took town streets, as getting dark.. (damn deer running out).. First thing I noticed was how smoothly it ran in town, no more jerkyness.. What a difference!! The midrange was a noticble gain , no lugging at 4-6000 rpm.. Got on it pretty good and the bike lifted the front quite easily in 3rd gear..(not trying to wheelie, just under power).. Yaman says approx 200 miles to get good results.. Still another 75 ish to go, Says all the upper rpm stuff fills in slower.. Doing a trackday at end of month.. Hopefully fill all the voids in then.. Worth every penny !!! Oh yeah I put my module on left inner fairing and it fits perfectly, away from heat sources.

After the MWR filter install with adjustable plate ( set to mwr specs), the bike is AMAZING!!! So smooth!!, definate midrange power gains.. Getting on dyno this weekend...cant wait to see the curve!! Havent had to hook up to cpu yet, easy to install, and does all the work for you.. What more can you ask for..

WAY TO GO RAPIDBIKE!!!

hyperdrive said:

After the MWR filter install with adjustable plate ( set to mwr specs), the bike is AMAZING!!! So smooth!!, definate midrange power gains.. Getting on dyno this weekend...cant wait to see the curve!! Havent had to hook up to cpu yet, easy to install, and does all the work for you.. What more can you ask for..

WAY TO GO RAPIDBIKE!!!

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Nice, how many miles have you clocked since MWR ?

YTURAN said:

Nice, how many miles have you clocked since MWR ?

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don't be like me and neglect getting it cleaned. My Panigale is probably like, "I CAN BREATH".

In regards to the MWR filter, with the Rapid Bike evo, is it better to get the HE (high effecency) filter or the Race air filter? I wont be dyno'ing the bike or making any major adjustments. both are the same price. Does the HE filter last longer between cleanings?
thx in advance

Go with the HE. The race filter needs to be cleaned more frequently and that is a pain. You will see great results with the RB module and the MWR HE filter.

Ljuice26 said:

Go with the HE. The race filter needs to be cleaned more frequently and that is a pain. You will see great results with the RB module and the MWR HE filter.

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Thank

Thanks

I have the race filter.. so far around 125 miles.. ordered the clearer and oil.. only takes a few minutes to a evict the filter, so no problem there.Yaman, Should I reset the base map now? I see there are changes from the last we spoke.

Scott

Well, one thing always to remember, the trim maps are the snapshots of your latest and your last ride, so if you had a track day or a good day out on the road, you can do it but numbers are always change but get smaller at the same time which is good so if you are not seeing numbers close to -10 or +10 or right at the edge of the adjustments, you dont have to reset......
Y.