Who’s voted….😂😂

DV4 said:

When I was a kid they promised a future with 3 day working weeks, flying cars and plenty of leisure in a peaceful world that looked to the stars for inspiration.

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I think you just watched too much TV.

I've always said. . ."I'm not a Politician, I'm a Mechanic. I don't create problems, I solve them."

BP PanigaleV4S said:

I think you just watched too much TV.

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maybe, but there was a sense of the future- now what are they offering us, survival of the fittest?

BP PanigaleV4S said:

This is from the guy who thinks his Ducati has AI. Yeah, I'm the one who needs to wake up.

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You know bud my point was that it was artificial to you. You didn't write the software did you? The "intelligence" supplied by the traction control etc. isn't your intelligence and that learning to ride without electronics is just better IMHO.

Sheikh said:

Dude, I have not seen so many foolish statements in one short post in a LONG time. You get the official "I'm just a troll' award. nothing you said made any sense.

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Of course it wouldn't make sense to you. Who supports the military during and after their service? The US tax payor. That's socialism. At some point you'll be saying to yourself "some old guy kept trying to warn us about the adoption of AI". You lack imagination. Simple as that.

So, let's consider Amazon. In the future all the warehouse related jobs will also become automated. Automated loaders will load the deliveries into trucks that run from trucking hub to trucking hub thru the use of computers (testing that stuff right now). At the delivery hub, automation redistributes the load into the appropriate vans for final delivery. Of all the jobs to automate this one is the hardest, I think. So maybe drivers for a while before automated drones do the delivery. If you can't see this coming, you simply lack imagination. Bezo's is already funding this. Zuckerturd recently giggled as he described AI replacing programmers. What jobs are those replaced going to do? What use to society is a truck driver who simply isn't needed? You going to make him a clerk or a call center agent? Oops mostly already gone. And then you want to take away this guy's social security at the end of his life so he can starve? It concerns me that no one is looking at this looming problem in any meaningful way. If AI eventually evolves to a point where access to data and the ability to reiterate solutions rapidly is as effective/productive as human intuition (I'm speaking relative to science so no need for engineers, scientists etc) then what happens? I'm having another Bonhoeffer moment. Motorcycle forum Bagger.

baggerman said:

You know bud my point was that it was artificial to you. You didn't write the software did you? The "intelligence" supplied by the traction control etc. isn't your intelligence and that learning to ride without electronics is just better IMHO.

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Dude, you are so full of yourself. Nice back pedaling. This is no different than you referring to the “ETV maps,” which an actual engine tuner corrected you on, but you just stay stuck on stupid.

baggerman said:

"some old guy kept trying to warn us about the adoption of AI".

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It turned out the old guy was confused and talking about his microwave. “How long does it know how to pop the popcorn? It’s AI!”

BP PanigaleV4S said:

What is it with you and your strange obsession with AI?

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It’s a fair thing to look at, between robotics and AI nearly universally Economists agree that in the next 25 years 40% of all existing paid jobs are going to disappear. And the remaining 60% will be done more efficiently, so on most of our lifetimes we will see up to 60% unemployment.

9% sends us into a tailspin now.

With 60% unemployment we will have an interim Universal Income system where the government just writes checks to families. But that’s not sustainable over the long run, so within a couple generations there will likely be no monetary system as we know it.

Fame and notoriety will become the only currency for awhile, but I hoping we move to being a meritorious society before my grand kids grow up into adults, wherein merit and achievement are the currency of social hierarchy.

Over the next decade things may get pretty rough though, as we are seeing the last vestiges of the ability to gain wealth and power through business activities. So you can bet there is going to be a race to consolidate that wealth and power through business activity.

It’s not all bad…we are just going to go through a rough patch. On the other side of that rough patch we are going to have Nuclear Fusion providing abundant endless energy, and Quatum computing mixed with AI freeing up our time…

That’s a good thing, because the parabolic increase in technology and human advancement almost directly correlates to how much free time we have. After the first industrial revolution, our work week got shorter, after the second industrial revolution our work week got even shorter than that. As technology advances, we gain more free time, and as we gain more free time, we advance our technology more rapidly. Because it’s not just free time that we’re increasing. It’s also mental bandwidth that we’re freeing up.

In macro terms, the more free time and mental bandwidth humanity has to use as they choose the more we advance.

It’s gonna be a pretty fascinating next 50 years.

It's short sighted to say there's going to be 60% unemployment. It drastically misses developing and emerging segments where people are going to be converting their time to money.

Less cashiers are needed in grocery stores due to automated checkouts, self calculating carts, shopping services etc. There's even inventory robots that roll around and scan shelves.

Consider the boom in the insta-cart, food delivery segment. Who thought there was money to be made in shopping for people? The gig economy is real.

Whoever thought there was a dime to be made making videos on the internet?

If you are in one of those vulnerable segments and you don't see what's coming, shame on you. Learn a trade. Moreover, look to a trade which is tethered to government regulation. If I had to learn something new right now, I'd consider HVAC. You can't even buy a lot of that stuff without a license.

It's all merely shifting.

BP PanigaleV4S said:

It's short sighted to say there's going to be 60% unemployment. It drastically misses developing and emerging segments where people are going to be converting their time to money.

Less cashiers are needed in grocery stores due to automated checkouts, self calculating carts, shopping services etc. There's even inventory robots that roll around and scan shelves.

Consider the boom in the insta-cart, food delivery segment. Who thought there was money to be made in shopping for people? The gig economy is real.

Whoever thought there was a dime to be made making videos on the internet?

If you are in one of those vulnerable segments and you don't see what's coming, shame on you. Learn a trade. Moreover, look to a trade which is tethered to government regulation. If I had to learn something new right now, I'd consider HVAC. You can't even buy a lot of that stuff without a license.

It's all merely shifting.

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lol, gig economy otherwise known as low wage slavery. I think there is a massive wake up thats going to happen when society is comprised of hairdressers, food deliverers and dog walkers. As I said who is going to buy the stuff and who is going to pay the taxes so the govt can pay people?

BP PanigaleV4S said:

It's short sighted to say there's going to be 60% unemployment. It drastically misses developing and emerging segments where people are going to be converting their time to money.

Less cashiers are needed in grocery stores due to automated checkouts, self calculating carts, shopping services etc. There's even inventory robots that roll around and scan shelves.

Consider the boom in the insta-cart, food delivery segment. Who thought there was money to be made in shopping for people? The gig economy is real.

Whoever thought there was a dime to be made making videos on the internet?

If you are in one of those vulnerable segments and you don't see what's coming, shame on you. Learn a trade. Moreover, look to a trade which is tethered to government regulation. If I had to learn something new right now, I'd consider HVAC. You can't even buy a lot of that stuff without a license.

It's all merely shifting.

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What you are saying about ‘shifting’ jobs was true in the 1st Industrial Revolution and 2nd Industrial Revolution, where jobs eliminated by new technologies were replaced by new jobs in new technology.

But that’s the point I was trying to make, a point that has nearly universal agreement with all economists….40% of all jobs are going to be eliminated with AI and Robotics…AND NOT REPLACED in new emerging technology sectors like they were in the first and second industrial revolutions. This includes most but not all trucking and delivery jobs.

You did call it right about the trades though, many of those jobs will remain, that’s why 100% unemployment is not projected.

40% to 60% is though.

DV4 said:

lol, gig economy otherwise known as low wage slavery. I think there is a massive wake up thats going to happen when society is comprised of hairdressers, food deliverers and dog walkers. As I said who is going to buy the stuff and who is going to pay the taxes so the govt can pay people?

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You think that's different from working entry level fast food or retail? I hate to break it to you, not everyone can be an astronaut.