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Front calipers and brake master finally arrived
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LOL. KarlKani is doing it right. Excellent choice on the calipers and master. Hey Don, you should start taking notes first on what the good stuff looks like and second on the business side of things as KarlKani has more $$ tied up in brake components than you made last year. I’ll send you a paper and a pencil as I know things are tight man.
 
Don you will never get it...
There is 1 person that I am aware of racing a V4R at the club level. The point of this is to share the build then my experience racing/riding it. The more info that is out there the better. None of this kit is that crazy, its all off the shelf stuff that is medium to somewhat higher price points. We all know how quickly things get very expensive in this sport, this should be good example of what you can do before sailing off into the abyss of SBK susp and electronics... If id doesnt interest you dont pay attn.
 
I am back boys n girls so yeah this .... is priceless lol.

Don does not even know what the arrows mean on the calipers??? He does not pay attention to the details its all about the post count and meaningless contributions lol


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LOL. KarlKani is doing it right. Excellent choice on the calipers and master. Hey Don, you should start taking notes first on what the good stuff looks like and second on the business side of things as KarlKani has more $$ tied up in brake components than you made last year. I’ll send you a paper and a pencil as I know things are tight man.
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KarlKani said:
Don you will never get it...
There is 1 person that I am aware of racing a V4R at the club level. The point of this is to share the build then my experience racing/riding it. The more info that is out there the better. None of this kit is that crazy, its all off the shelf stuff that is medium to somewhat higher price points. We all know how quickly things get very expensive in this sport, this should be good example of what you can do before sailing off into the abyss of SBK susp and electronics... If id doesnt interest you dont pay attn.
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how good are these calipers compared to stock, I realise that for racing they are far superior but would an average mid group trackday rider appreciate the difference?
 
I haven't used these particular calipers, I previously had GP4-RX and they were great. These are a notch above that being mono block.

Would a b group rider notice the difference? maybe not I would say you would notice pads and master before calipers etc

The order of upgrading brakes goes something like this, and this is just in terms of making a difference. It also somewhat true in regard to $$s to performance
1-Pads
2-Lines
3-Master
4-Calipers
5-Rotors
 
I can't wait to see the Beast. I haven't seen Mr. Kani on anything more than a superlite 160HP twin, same weight plus 80HP with those binders.....you are gonna be one sore monkey after your first weekend.
 
KarlKani said:
The order of upgrading brakes goes something like this, and this is just in terms of making a difference...
1-Pads
2-Lines
3-Master
4-Calipers
5-Rotors
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Maybe that used to be the order

Back when oem lines were cheesy rubber w nylon braid ha

Seems like if you are not changing piston diameter calipers would be last on that list

(In terms of making a noticeable performance difference)
 
I'm looking forward to seeing this put together! Bring on the super trick ....! If it makes it even a little better, faster, lighter, or improves performance even a little bit I'm all for it. Maybe mere mortals like myself will not be able to take it to its maximum performance, I don't care. I still enjoy seeing people upgrade their bikes. Tinkering with them is 1/2 the fun of owning them! Personally there is something satisfying when you make a mod to a bike and can immediately feel/ tell the positive difference weather its on the track or street. So Karl, hats off to you buddy and keep it up. This thread is one of the more interesting threads on this board.
 
KarlKani said:
I haven't used these particular calipers, I previously had GP4-RX and they were great. These are a notch above that being mono block.

Would a b group rider notice the difference? maybe not I would say you would notice pads and master before calipers etc

The order of upgrading brakes goes something like this, and this is just in terms of making a difference. It also somewhat true in regard to $$s to performance
1-Pads
2-Lines
3-Master
4-Calipers
5-Rotors
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Nice parts as always!

The new calipers are a notch above the rx’s - are they rr’s?

Regarding the upgrade path, I’m under the impression it’s: pads, fluid, rotors, lines, master, caliper.
 
they are GP4-MS

ok guys sure we can parse the order its little subjective

For me pads/lines/fluid and kind of rotors are not part of the equation for me at all. Its all masters/calipers
I am 660 and Z04s all day long
 
KarlKani said:
they are GP4-MS

ok guys sure we can parse the order its little subjective

For me pads/lines/fluid and kind of rotors are not part of the equation for me at all. Its all masters/calipers
I am 660 and Z04s all day long
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GP4ms - very nice.

I mention the upgrade order, not to be pedantic, but for readers who might not be as experienced. Generally, you upgrade heat capacity (pads, fluid, rotors) before feel (lines, master, caliper).
 
I've done all the brake upgrades and its really down to what your wanting. Bypassing the ABS will make the biggest change to feel, next is replacing the MC, and finally the calipers. If your wanting an increase in power, I'd go with pads and cast iron rotors as the biggest improvement. As far as lever consistency with heat buildup, go with stainless or Ti caliper pistons.
 

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