Pirelli Diablo Superbike (SC1-V3) Rear 200/65-ZR17

[Styler]

Funny Story… So, I was testing a new set of wheels last weekend – as well as a new rear caliper, modified rear master cylinder, and some fresh rubber. I ran the first session with only the new front wheel and tire; once the mod to the master cylinder was proven to fix the problem with the rear caliper – which was overheating and puking brake fluid on the rear wheel – we mounted the new rear wheel and tire. After session two, with the bike on the stands, I noticed that it was difficult to spin the rear wheel; there was so much resistance. [emoji2955] At one point, three mechanics were going over the bike, trying to figure out the source of the problem. [emoji848] We pulled the caliper and spun the wheel; not the issue. And when we put on the OEM wheel, the issue went away. We examined the hub of the new aftermarket rear wheel; not the issue. Puzzling… [emoji2369] Then I remembered, the new rubber out back was the Pirelli Diablo Superbike (SC1-V3) Rear 200/65-ZR17

, which performed flawlessly and was wearing very well while I was coming up to speed that morning. [emoji109][emoji110][emoji965][emoji100] So here’s the rub – literally: the 65 profile (taller tire) was rubbing on the bottom of the PitBull rear stand… [emoji2357] We all felt like idiots. [emoji51] Anyway, love the tire, but just a heads up to anyone that moves to this new tire, it is EXTREMELY difficult to get tire warmers on with this combination bike, tire and rear stand. Tip: Have a look at the clearance of your rear tire on your stand before plunking down a pile of money on this awesome rubber.

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[1299rFE]

Very interesting, as i was reading i was thinking bearing.

I still run the 60 , good looks btw.
How did you get the tire warmer on with that stand?

 

[Styler]

Very interesting, as i was reading i was thinking bearing.

I still run the 60 , good looks btw.
How did you get the tire warmer on with that stand?

Thanks.
Carefully...

 

[Styler]

I've been told that the 200/60 is being discontinued; so, if that is what you like, then get 'em while you can.
BTW, one is only supposed to run the 200/65 profile rear with the new 125 front, or the "balance is off".
I ran all day with the 120 I had; worked for me... but this was just a test day, not a race day.

 

[Keith197]

Pitbull Panigale V4 stand is the solution.

 

[Styler]

Ya; that's what Pit Bull just told me... More money on something that worked just fine for the last 12 years. :-(

 

[1299rFE]

I have a 15r and the front tire hugger barley fits the 120, the 125 wont for sure

 

[Styler]

Bursig stand anyone?

 

[Styler]

Awesome tire, nonetheless. [emoji106] After six sessions of 20 minutes. Ran it at 26.5 psi (hot) - air temp ranged from mid-70s to mid-80s, Fahrenheit.


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[Keith197]

Looks like your tire is spinning around the rim.

 

[Styler]

Looks like your tire is spinning around the rim.

Interesting [emoji848] What clues lead you to that?


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[Keith197]

Interesting [emoji848] What clues lead you to that?


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Assumed who mounted tires lined up valve stem and red marks on tire. Even with no tire lube mine would spin almost a full rotation at the track, mounted using hair spray helped a lot but I just got mine back from having anti-slip applied to the bead.

 

[carlpretzel]

Tire wear looks great!!
Have any of you guys tried Bridgestone's 200/65/17 rear slick yet? I'm looking to try something a little different. While the Pirelli's are the choice for WSBK and Ducati designed it's bike to run Pirelli's I feel like there's some lost feel from the tires due to how soft the carcass is. I'm told the Bridgestone's aren't is stiff. My goal is to get some more feel. I have my shock at 317mm and the forks set to the stock height in the triple tree (2018 V4S).

 

[Styler]

Assumed who mounted tires lined up valve stem and red marks on tire. Even with no tire lube mine would spin almost a full rotation at the track, mounted using hair spray helped a lot but I just got mine back from having anti-slip applied to the bead.

Red dot is aligned opposite to the valve-stem. All good. You maybe seeing the red from the BST decal.


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[Styler]

Tire wear looks great!!
Have any of you guys tried Bridgestone's 200/65/17 rear slick yet? I have my shock at 317mm and the forks set to the stock height in the triple tree (2018 V4S).

No; sorry. Nothing but Pirelli Slicks and Dunlop Q4s depending on the bike. My Duc is a 2012 1199.


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[Keith197]

https://www.pirelli.com/minisite/pirelli-motorcycle-tyre-guide-2015/files/assets/common/downloads/page0228.pdf

"Some PIRELLI tyres have a red dot on the side wall. This indicates the lightest point, and should be positioned next to the valve"

 

[Styler]

Well, it looks like the person thought the red dot was the heaviest part of the tire, and positioned it opposite the valve stem. Anyway, it only took one 1/4 ounce weight, which says a lot about the manufacturing of both the tire and the wheel.

 

[MotoX183]

I've been told that the 200/60 is being discontinued; so, if that is what you like, then get 'em while you can.
BTW, one is only supposed to run the 200/65 profile rear with the new 125 front, or the "balance is off".
I ran all day with the 120 I had; worked for me... but this was just a test day, not a race day.

That is because the front affects the ride height as well. So if you run one without the other, the ride height front to rear can be off. Chatted with our Pirelli rep about this a bit at the last race. Need to run both (65 & 125) to keep it all in line.

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[Styler]

I ended up ordering a new Pitbull stand.

Message from Pit Bull:
"We did start making what we call the 'Elite' One-Armed Rear stand when the V4 Superbike came out. We never had issues with the 1199 or 1299, but if they’re discontinuing the old tire, we might start having issues on those too. At least now we have the tire model that is going to be the “problem child” for the older stands. On the new stand, we actually made the cross tube that goes under the tire lower, by using an off-center mounted axle for the stand wheels. This allows us to drop the cross tube lower, which prevents interference with the tire and/or tire warmers. The stand is even ¼” or so shorter than the older one which gives additional leverage. The new models are F0109-210 if you need the pins for the large hub Ducati bikes, or F0109-000 if you just need the stand and not the pins."

If you need to order the new stand without the pins (F0109-000), then you'll have to call the order in; it is not available via their web site.

 

[KarlKani]

Do you have SUPER thick tank pads? can I see a picture of those? @Styler