‘23 V4S stock forged wheels vs BST wheels

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My $0.02…..

There is no appreciable difference between the Pirelli trackday / DOT race tires (not the super corsas) and the slicks in sc3. I think they are the same tire as the SC3 slicks with just enough grooves cut into them to pass as road legal.

I switch over to the DOT race tires for school/coaching days where I need to have a debrief or classroom session and don’t want to fuss around with warmers between sessions or for the first couple of track days in the season while I am getting reacquainted with the speed after several months off the bike.

If you aren’t activating traction control a lot on the DOTs, switching to slicks probably isn’t going to help unless having them gives you extra confidence to push a little harder, which in itself will probably help many people. Confidence is hard to gain and can be worth quite a bit of time if you are struggling to improve pace, just having a better tire can help you to feel comfortable to push and take some more risk.

I think slicks are great, but they are a bit of a hassle to maintain compared to DOTs.

The generator, stands and extra gas tank take up a bunch of space in your vehicle. Wear is more difficult to read with slicks. With DOTs it’s pretty clear when they are getting close to needing to be changed just by looking at them, not so easy with slicks. I change mine when I start feeling them slip a lot. If you forget to unplug your warmers after you take them off they can catch on fire….

Also, don’t be so concerned with temperature, focus on pressure. Figure out your target hot pressure and measure as soon as possible when you pit, adjust pressures before each session until your measured pressures immediately after a session are consistently where you want them. This takes a little guess work and experimentation, but once you get it right the tires work and feel great.
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha
 
My $0.02…..

There is no appreciable difference between the Pirelli trackday / DOT race tires (not the super corsas) and the slicks in sc3. I think they are the same tire as the SC3 slicks with just enough grooves cut into them to pass as road legal.

I switch over to the DOT race tires for school/coaching days where I need to have a debrief or classroom session and don’t want to fuss around with warmers between sessions or for the first couple of track days in the season while I am getting reacquainted with the speed after several months off the bike.

If you aren’t activating traction control a lot on the DOTs, switching to slicks probably isn’t going to help unless having them gives you extra confidence to push a little harder, which in itself will probably help many people. Confidence is hard to gain and can be worth quite a bit of time if you are struggling to improve pace, just having a better tire can help you to feel comfortable to push and take some more risk.

I think slicks are great, but they are a bit of a hassle to maintain compared to DOTs.

The generator, stands and extra gas tank take up a bunch of space in your vehicle. Wear is more difficult to read with slicks. With DOTs it’s pretty clear when they are getting close to needing to be changed just by looking at them, not so easy with slicks. I change mine when I start feeling them slip a lot. If you forget to unplug your warmers after you take them off they can catch on fire….

Also, don’t be so concerned with temperature, focus on pressure. Figure out your target hot pressure and measure as soon as possible when you pit, adjust pressures before each session until your measured pressures immediately after a session are consistently where you want them. This takes a little guess work and experimentation, but once you get it right the tires work and feel great.

All good advice thanks.

I am in the habit of using warmers and it’s not an issue. I use them primarily so I know I have warm tyres that are set to the right pressure. I believe the SC3 DOT and slick are the same tyre other than the tread and so my interest in the slicks is partly confidence and partly curiosity, not just to try slicks but also to try the different sizes mentioned here that are not available in the DOT tyres.

I’ll make sure to check pressures immediately upon getting into the garage and go from there.
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha

True, although we know the purpose of tread. For those who grew up on the road rather than the track, a slick tyre looks like a bald tyre. 🤣
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha
I think it's better to have done trackdays on DOT tires first so you can truly appreciate the difference. Buy extra pucks you're going to be getting your knee down in places you don't expect.
 
Carbon Wheels sir......

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I can only tell you the wheel was fitted as std equipment on a V4 ducati it exploded looks like whilst at a track. Its on another ducati forum and I know of the person that posted it.
 
I can only tell you the wheel was fitted as std equipment on a V4 ducati it exploded looks like whilst at a track. Its on another ducati forum and I know of the person that posted it.

Be still my heart, andy is gleaning information off the internet and not practical experience…

Also he couldn’t just post a link so we could see for ourselves
 
A guy broke a carbon fiber swingarm right in front of me in the g out on the backside of buttonwillow. He cartwheeled diverging from the line so I managed to miss him. Ugly, ugly, ugly. He was ok somehow but the bike was destroyed.
 
I have to say in the back of my mind I’m lil iffy about the BST’s I just bought….but…I’ve put the Thysenkrupp CF wheels through about some of the most torturous testing you can throw at them and they survived stuff without blemish that I think metal wheels would not have survived intact. Certainly luck and a bit of talent at keeping the bike upright in sketchy situations played a roll, but they handled everything better than I would have imagined…at least twice early on I had some off track excursions that WHILE it was happening I was thinking “my wheels aren’t gunna survive this”…both times I took the tires off the wheels and literally examined every square inch with a bright light and magnifying glass for fractures too small to catch with the naked eye and nothing.

Try at least 15 off track excursions with a 270 pound rider at the time, once in the infield at streets of willow where I ran over several literal boulders, and power through hard dirt ruts like a dirt bike etc.
 
I have a friend I raced cars with. He would always approach the edge from the out of control side so looped the car a lot. I always approached the edge from the control side working up to the point where I looped the car or close. Beat him every race. May I suggest this as a strategy Steven. Dude from a probability standpoint 15 times not good. My friend went off at Willow Springs (big track) 600 race broke both his arms. His old lady had to literally wipe his a** for like 6 weeks.
 

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