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I’ll try a higher setting on the warmers, although I guess I really need to know the temperature after the session and the pressure as well in order to set them for the temperature I’m generating. I imagine I’ll get a feel for it after a while. SC2 front and SC1 rear seems a common recommendation. I enjoyed the SC3 DOT tyres.

My warmers allow for setting temp for tyres and for the rims and it seems good to also warm the wheels and not just the tyres.

I have specially made blankets that came with my warmers that cover the whole wheel, on windy or cooler days I use those over top of my warmers.

You’ll like slicks, other than being a bit more diligent about tire pressures they aren’t much different than what you’ve been running, except you’ll feel a stable and better FEEL connection to the tarmac.

I might be imagining it, but I swear when I do a hot lap with the SC3 dot tires I can feel a bit of tread squirm that I never noticed until I switched to slicks. That contributes to a tiny bit less confidence with DOT tires on track.
 
You can get close to the same lean angles on dot tires but the difference on the drive and particularly on braking will surprise you. So much better.

I’ve seen a well-known person get some serious lean angles on rather ordinary tyres with a pillion on board, and I’ve no doubt that DOT’s are more than sufficient for me, but confidence counts for a lot and I’m definitely interested in trying slicks.
 
My $0.02…..

There is no appreciable difference between the Pirelli trackday / DOT race tires (not the super corsas) and the slicks in sc3. I think they are the same tire as the SC3 slicks with just enough grooves cut into them to pass as road legal.

I switch over to the DOT race tires for school/coaching days where I need to have a debrief or classroom session and don’t want to fuss around with warmers between sessions or for the first couple of track days in the season while I am getting reacquainted with the speed after several months off the bike.

If you aren’t activating traction control a lot on the DOTs, switching to slicks probably isn’t going to help unless having them gives you extra confidence to push a little harder, which in itself will probably help many people. Confidence is hard to gain and can be worth quite a bit of time if you are struggling to improve pace, just having a better tire can help you to feel comfortable to push and take some more risk.

I think slicks are great, but they are a bit of a hassle to maintain compared to DOTs.

The generator, stands and extra gas tank take up a bunch of space in your vehicle. Wear is more difficult to read with slicks. With DOTs it’s pretty clear when they are getting close to needing to be changed just by looking at them, not so easy with slicks. I change mine when I start feeling them slip a lot. If you forget to unplug your warmers after you take them off they can catch on fire….

Also, don’t be so concerned with temperature, focus on pressure. Figure out your target hot pressure and measure as soon as possible when you pit, adjust pressures before each session until your measured pressures immediately after a session are consistently where you want them. This takes a little guess work and experimentation, but once you get it right the tires work and feel great.
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha
 
My $0.02…..

There is no appreciable difference between the Pirelli trackday / DOT race tires (not the super corsas) and the slicks in sc3. I think they are the same tire as the SC3 slicks with just enough grooves cut into them to pass as road legal.

I switch over to the DOT race tires for school/coaching days where I need to have a debrief or classroom session and don’t want to fuss around with warmers between sessions or for the first couple of track days in the season while I am getting reacquainted with the speed after several months off the bike.

If you aren’t activating traction control a lot on the DOTs, switching to slicks probably isn’t going to help unless having them gives you extra confidence to push a little harder, which in itself will probably help many people. Confidence is hard to gain and can be worth quite a bit of time if you are struggling to improve pace, just having a better tire can help you to feel comfortable to push and take some more risk.

I think slicks are great, but they are a bit of a hassle to maintain compared to DOTs.

The generator, stands and extra gas tank take up a bunch of space in your vehicle. Wear is more difficult to read with slicks. With DOTs it’s pretty clear when they are getting close to needing to be changed just by looking at them, not so easy with slicks. I change mine when I start feeling them slip a lot. If you forget to unplug your warmers after you take them off they can catch on fire….

Also, don’t be so concerned with temperature, focus on pressure. Figure out your target hot pressure and measure as soon as possible when you pit, adjust pressures before each session until your measured pressures immediately after a session are consistently where you want them. This takes a little guess work and experimentation, but once you get it right the tires work and feel great.

All good advice thanks.

I am in the habit of using warmers and it’s not an issue. I use them primarily so I know I have warm tyres that are set to the right pressure. I believe the SC3 DOT and slick are the same tyre other than the tread and so my interest in the slicks is partly confidence and partly curiosity, not just to try slicks but also to try the different sizes mentioned here that are not available in the DOT tyres.

I’ll make sure to check pressures immediately upon getting into the garage and go from there.
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha

True, although we know the purpose of tread. For those who grew up on the road rather than the track, a slick tyre looks like a bald tyre. 🤣
 
Just a thought, they shouldn’t be called slicks lol

More newer track riders would use them if they were more aptly named: Stickies 😂😂😂

We are conditioned growing up that a smooth/bold tire is dangerous and that tread gives you grip when we learn to drive, and then we call them slicks and make them sound more ominous haha
I think it's better to have done trackdays on DOT tires first so you can truly appreciate the difference. Buy extra pucks you're going to be getting your knee down in places you don't expect.
 
Carbon Wheels sir......

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I can only tell you the wheel was fitted as std equipment on a V4 ducati it exploded looks like whilst at a track. Its on another ducati forum and I know of the person that posted it.
 
I can only tell you the wheel was fitted as std equipment on a V4 ducati it exploded looks like whilst at a track. Its on another ducati forum and I know of the person that posted it.

Be still my heart, andy is gleaning information off the internet and not practical experience…

Also he couldn’t just post a link so we could see for ourselves
 
A guy broke a carbon fiber swingarm right in front of me in the g out on the backside of buttonwillow. He cartwheeled diverging from the line so I managed to miss him. Ugly, ugly, ugly. He was ok somehow but the bike was destroyed.
 

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