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Well one, not sure I agree as there are particular constant higher speeds, and even some comments on here about heat problems on the track at very high speeds. But yes, yours was more of a statement of fact, if you move faster the heat lessons. Sorry to lump you in with others that seem to add, you are going to slow pussy as more of a judgment. However, the bike is a street bike, it should be able to handle lower speeds and traffic without causing problems. That is what the bike is "supposed" to do. Sorry if I read your post as implying riders being pansies for not goign fast enough rather than a statement of fact. But again, not sure if that fact is true as staying in high revs also creates a lot of heat for me even at decent speeds. I think there are two isssues here, the heat from the header which is less affected by the speed you are going, and the heat radiating from the pipe wihch would be more affected.
And I'd argue that any street bike should be able to handle traffic and slow speeds without burning anybody. My RSV4R was hot, but never once heard on the forums of anybody being actually burned by it.
Wow, I must be really bored to dive into this conversation again.
The issue has been beaten to death in multiple threads and I guess it all boils down to individual preference. speeding up does improve heat factor but by the time its summer, engine temps rarely go below 200 unless you're on freeway. Plus, its hard for some of us to find the right time to go ride when there's no traffic or construction. So im sure some will go for the heat shield change for A more comfortable ride.
i'm sorry but i don't buy that nonsense one bit. if you don't want to ride comfortably, that's up to you. Some of us would prefer a pleasant ride without being burned. furthermore, if you think ppl getting burned is funny, you need to find a diff hobby.
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Hours to install
Can anyone tell me how many hours the installation takes at the dealer.
Can anyone tell me how many hours the installation takes at the dealer.
my dealer posted the labor time at 1.7 hrs. I think it varies from dealer to dealer but probably 1.5-2 hrs i'd guess.
Hereby the link: RideApart Review: Ducati 1199 Panigale S | Hell for Leather Hell for Leather
I can read this article multiple times without getting bored...
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If you feel the heat you aren't going fast enough is meant literally. This is a race bike built for speed and for racing....not really built for riding on the road with traffic and stop lights despite having headlights and blinkers. So I'm sorry to offend you with my "ass statement" but it's the truth. Maybe you should go buy a Goldwing or something while I go pound my chest.
And yes I ride on the road too....I think it gets hot....but it's my fault for riding a friggin superbike under 50mph.
That's why I didn't opt for bar end mirrors. Need those extra mm's for lane splitting.
Cannot tolerate traffic. It's totally illogical.
The heat never bothered me. Perhaps because i aalways had some typemof gear; Kevlar jeans at the minimum.
I will say that although I noticed the heat on my S; it was not an issue...no burns. D
But along came the R. It's new heat shield actually works. The only heat know is off the left side of the engine.
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I realize there is that line of thought, and I think it's just wrong. It's not a race bike, it is a sportbike made for the street that can be modified and raced. There is a significant perk to street sport bike riding and benefits and enjoyment to the power of the bike even though it has the ability to go much faster than you want to go on the street.
What do you estimate the net time people spend on this, or any sportbike, on the road versus on the track? 95% to 5% or less? There in an entire culture of sportbike riding on the street that is NOT racing. So yes, chest pounding to scoff at riding a sportbike on the street when that is the GROSS majority of what they are used for. The entire, this is what the bike was meant for, is ridiculous. To claim that a defect, one that is actually causing injury and being addressed by the manufacturer, while being used in the manner in which is was in fact designed and by far how it is usually used, is the fault of the rider not racing the bike, is just wrong.
Should people not complain about the blinker not working because they shouldn't need a blinker to race? Not to mention the bike was made to be sold, what its purpose is it the decision of the purchasing public. I would love to see somebody with a high performance sports car be scoffed at for complaining that the car doesn't work right on the street because it was meant to be raced. Get over yourself and realize there are other uses for this bike, and recognize that while heat, in general, is to be expected, it seems clear that some are experiencing heat well beyond what should be reasonably expected on ANY bike.
Sorry for the rant. Just getting tired of people telling me what my bike was meant for. Somebody else pays for it then they can tell me what its purpose is.
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why not just pick up a ninja 250cc or something that still looks fast but won't heat up like an 1199cc engine that is designed with one purpose in mind?
That's all I will say on the matter. To each their own, the bike is built for speed first and foremost, not for lolly gagging around town.
That's all I will say on the matter. To each their own, the bike is built for speed first and foremost, not for lolly gagging around town.
what purpose the bike is used for is for the purchaser to decide. i like speed and thats why most of us bought the bike, but some of us like lolly gagging around town too in a nice looking bike that accelarates fast and is easy to handle, without the heat/burns. is that asking too much? maybe from the comments i see..
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I don't like lolly gagging around town at all, but unfortunately the main thoroughfares that I use to get to the fun twisties sometimes move at a lollygaggy pace.
Therefore, I want the bike to be at least tolerable in those situations. If it were only meant to be ridden fast why include the lights, turn signals, mirrors and license plate holder? If it isn't track only it should be streetable without serious problems.
Therefore, I want the bike to be at least tolerable in those situations. If it were only meant to be ridden fast why include the lights, turn signals, mirrors and license plate holder? If it isn't track only it should be streetable without serious problems.
I don't like lolly gagging around town at all, but unfortunately the main thoroughfares that I use to get to the fun twisties sometimes move at a lollygaggy pace.
Therefore, I want the bike to be at least tolerable in those situations. If it were only meant to be ridden fast why include the lights, turn signals, mirrors and license plate holder? If it isn't track only it should be streetable without serious problems.
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How about just put a pair of wheels on the back to make a tricycle and be done with it.
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