1199 R Superleggera

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Red Dawn said:
Do you have an idea what the specs of parts is to make such a comment? Again, get back with me on the frame piece alone. But add in a ton of different things like I mentioned internally to make the motor capable of the higher HP that is genuinely on the safe side in terms of what they are quoting...

It has some things on it that add up. Take an 1199R and add Titanium everything. Every fairing bolt, case cover bolt, etc. Then add the wheels, add the electronic features with the next gen of engine and bike management and you have a lot more than $35k. Like I said, that subframe has got to be $8-$10k alone...

All I am saying is that it seems you are looking at just the outside and not the parts in of themselves. The fairings also aren't going to be cheap. They are F1 quality, guys. I am saying once you see the bike in person and can compare to such things like high end race cars and production of such elaborate design, you will see that $35k on top of an R is really cheaper than they could have asked.

Add up the wheels, carbon and the ti and that would get you damn close. You're missing SOOOOOOOO much more just beyond those few things.
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Easy mate.
Don't be too hard on him.
He's probably got a HP4 sitting in the garage.

The poor ignorant bastard:(
 
I don't know why there is even a discussion of the price. Nobody is having a gun held to their head making them buy one. I was at my dealer a couple of days ago, he already has one sold to a guy who owns not one, but two Desmosedici's and a variety of other Ducatis.
 
Reminds me of people that have the means and desperately want to buy a Pagani...

There are other super-cars in the market that can perform at the same level (if not faster) but they want to purchase them anyway due to the quality, craftsmanship, styling, build materials, exclusivity, and many more reasons...

I would go on a limb and say the bike won't be $30k faster/better performance value than my 1199S or an HP4...but then again neither is a Ferrari 458 over say a Corvette ZR1 if it all comes down to laps times etc etc.

Another great analogy is my customers and good friends that have $15k + watches. My $300 Wenger works just as well but that doesn't stop them from wanting a Rolex or Breitling :D (bastards - lol)
 
Brad said:
Ash tray?

And an entertainment system for the pillion.

What about a bar fridge??
With a cocktail cabinet.
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The ash tray and bar fridge are Harley accessories but I think your on to something with the cocktail cabinet and how about a espresso machine so you can make every stop a Starbuck's stop.:)
 
And it doesn't have power windows and central locking.

For that matter no power assisted disc brakes or power steering (for those that can still remember back that far):D
 
Red Dawn said:
Do you have an idea what the specs of parts is to make such a comment? Again, get back with me on the frame piece alone. But add in a ton of different things like I mentioned internally to make the motor capable of the higher HP that is genuinely on the safe side in terms of what they are quoting...

It has some things on it that add up. Take an 1199R and add Titanium everything. Every fairing bolt, case cover bolt, etc. Then add the wheels, add the electronic features with the next gen of engine and bike management and you have a lot more than $35k. Like I said, that subframe has got to be $8-$10k alone...

All I am saying is that it seems you are looking at just the outside and not the parts in of themselves. The fairings also aren't going to be cheap. They are F1 quality, guys. I am saying once you see the bike in person and can compare to such things like high end race cars and production of such elaborate design, you will see that $35k on top of an R is really cheaper than they could have asked.

Add up the wheels, carbon and the ti and that would get you damn close. You're missing SOOOOOOOO much more just beyond those few things.
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SOOOOOOOOOO.... It's like I'm reading a 13 year old tween girls Facebook status. Yikes.
 
Red Dawn said:
You guys are all funny talking in reference to pricing and stuff... Find a SINGLE manufacturer doing something like this. The materials involved alone are worth the asking price. Try and make a Magnesium composite frame body and get back to me as to the cost of making that and what you'd have to charge to make any money on the deal...

Also, the specs of this bike are amazing. Look closely at the pistons, the crank, the things outside may leave you feeling bummed, but it is the heart that makes me excited. The carbon fiber sub frame alone is probably worth almost $10k. It shouldn't be hidden it is that beautiful.

I've pushed the bike with everything but fuel in it and it felt like a mountain bike. Amazing. And when you look at details like EVERY fairing bolt, every engine bolt, every EVERY bolt made of titanium. The rounded and sculptured fairing edges, the details like the spacers, etc. All attention to details.

This is a "Hey world, this is what CAN be done and produced for the general public". And oh yeah... 8 lbs lighter than the WSBK...

Quit looking at the outside and pay attention to the details and $65k will make you feel that they could have asked for so much more. Try and price out an 1199RS13 and get back to me.
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Wow, there are thinking adults here!

Seriously folks, its awesome, its expensive and it is a track special with street capabilities, albiet limited street capabilities. Congrats to those who can plunk down the coin and get one and can I get a ride?
 
996racer said:
Wow, there are thinking adults here!

Seriously folks, its awesome, its expensive and it is a track special with street capabilities, albiet limited street capabilities. Congrats to those who can plunk down the coin and get one and can I get a ride?
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Dammit, I missed them"¦where are the "thinking folks" at? :D

It is an amazing bike. The fact that it comes from the factory makes it more so. The price does seem a little steep though considering everything. I guess the price range is about right though, speaking from an evolutionary standpoint. The Desmo was what..$50kish?

MV's CC was over a $100k new if I am not mistaken and that bike didn't seem to have the overall packaging of either the Desmo or the SL (my opinion).
 
01a4man said:
Dammit, I missed them…where are the "thinking folks" at? :D

It is an amazing bike. The fact that it comes from the factory makes it more so. The price does seem a little steep though considering everything. I guess the price range is about right though, speaking from an evolutionary standpoint. The Desmo was what..$50kish?

MV's CC was over a $100k new if I am not mistaken and that bike didn't seem to have the overall packaging of either the Desmo or the SL (my opinion).
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-- early-bird special was $65k on the desmosedici...it then went to $72k, and many sold for less (the unspoken for ones in the 2008/09/10 financial market meltdown)

-- 'nuff said about the SL - maybe not a bargain by some peoples standards, but i sure can't build one like it for any less....nor would i want to :) - the factory does a decent job on their own for me "thank you"!
 

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