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transdesigner said:
I read a statistic that the "average" person that owns a $250k car has, on average, $21.5 million in cash assets. so the generalization that that if you have a lambo you can afford a 65k bike is, i agree, a generalization, but one that has a very high likelihood of being correct lol
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There's a difference between being able to afford it and being able to justify the purchase. ;)
 
some people can afford very expensive toys, but may not be into cars or bikes, and drive a mechanically maintained but rusty 20 year old Honda, and then go to Rodeo Drive and have it valet parked while goes and buys a $100 dinner for himself every night. It's possible, IMO. Have I seen this happen? No.
 
Fragile said:
some people can afford very expensive toys, but may not be into cars or bikes, and drive a mechanically maintained but rusty 20 year old Honda, and then go to Rodeo Drive and have it valet parked while goes and buys a $100 dinner for himself every night. It's possible, IMO. Have I seen this happen? No.
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Larry David drives a Prius

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STW ... isn't it great that it takes 45K to imrove on your Base? ... but don't worry, it will be a better bike... a much better bike... much being very little if you compare it amongst others.... and let me tell you from experience that putting a bike of that level together is utterly costly and risky ... i think Transdesigner hit the nail full on the head...
 
kope999R said:
STW ... isn't it great that it takes 45K to imrove on your Base? ... but don't worry, it will be a better bike... a much better bike... much being very little if you compare it amongst others.... and let me tell you from experience that putting a bike of that level together is utterly costly and risky ... i think Transdesigner hit the nail full on the head...
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Kope... I never claimed my bike with additions would be the exact equivalent....But given my level it would be near as dammit the same :):) My point is that the bike is not worth $45000 more..thats my point..
 
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I think to point here is you can put 30K into a Corvette and make it out perform a stock Porsche, but it will never be a Porsche, always a Chevy. Ergo no matter how much you put into a Base, it will never give you the same feeling as owning the SL.
 
Trauma said:
I think to point here is you can put 30K into a Corvette and make it out perform a stock Porsche, but it will never be a Porsche, always a Chevy. Ergo no matter how much you put into a Base, it will never give you the same feeling as owning the SL.
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But those are very different cars. What if, for argument's sake, it's between a heavily modded 911 C2S vs. a GT3 stock?




.........hm I see your point. I'd take the GT3. :D
 
Trauma said:
I think to point here is you can put 30K into a Corvette and make it out perform a stock Porsche, but it will never be a Porsche, always a Chevy. Ergo no matter how much you put into a Base, it will never give you the same feeling as owning the SL.
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Good point there and I agree. You can even make a Honda Civic into a 9 second car, but its still a Honda... and you wouldnt be able to drive it on the street. Difference is that the Ferrari or Porsche you can still drive on the street and race at the track and be ok. :cool::D
 
In terms of mods put into a base... if ultimate light weighting is your thing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you couldn't put together a lighter bike yourself than what the SL could be for lower money, simply due to the magnesium frame parts. You could potentially make the base very light with some more CF bits, like wheels, but you could add those to the SL too, and still be at a lower price than if you tried to get a magnesium frame made just for your base. So if ultimate light weight is your goal, the SL is the cheapest way to go...
 
Based on the statistic model I presented earlier in this thread, the SL does represent a quantifiable value over the next best Ducati offering that is not only consistent with previous Ducati flagship bikes, but even exceeds the value offered by the Desmosedici by the time it was delivered to its first owner. The algorithm factors in performance characteristics and MSRP differentials, but if you incorporate the advanced electronics package and the significantly reduced maintenance costs, the argument for the SL being a bargain (relatively speaking) becomes even more compelling.
 
Nitrouz said:
But those are very different cars. What if, for argument's sake, it's between a heavily modded 911 C2S vs. a GT3 stock?




.........hm I see your point. I'd take the GT3. :D
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I am trying to reason purchasing the SL over a highly modified base. It's hard to use Porsche as a comparison, because all models are best-of-breed in their class.

Can anyone think of a situation in autos, that you take a base version of a model line, then outfit it with some lighter parts (90% available after market), some of which give it a handful of horsepower more (i.e. rods), put on stickers, then charge over 3 times as much? There is no such animal. But people will pay it. The Desmo is not even a close comparison, totally different animal. The only one I can think of in Ducati, was the 1098R, and it was only double$, but had a completely different engine (1099).
 
trauma said:
i am trying to reason purchasing the sl over a highly modified base. It's hard to use porsche as a comparison, because all models are best-of-breed in their class.

Can anyone think of a situation in autos, that you take a base version of a model line, then outfit it with some lighter parts (90% available after market), some of which give it a handful of horsepower more (i.e. Rods), put on stickers, then charge over 3 times as much? There is no such animal. But people will pay it. The desmo is not even a close comparison, totally different animal. The only one i can think of in ducati, was the 1098r, and it was only double$, but had a completely different engine (1099).
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bmw .... ? M ?
 

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