1299 vs R1 (size and ergos)

6'2" 180lbs, feel really comfortable on the Pani, even better than my old 848. Bottom line, as mentioned above, you can fiddle with different clip-ons and rear sets to change the Ergos of the bike to fit you and your riding style

Halo2 said:

Ive got 09 R1 and i can do long rides (hours) its more upright and i have a bad back, what about doing long rides on the panigale 1199?

Im 5'7'' 100kg

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I am 6ft 170 lbs with a bad back, bad knees, bad arm, bad neck and arthritis all over and she is more than comfortable enough.. I've stayed out riding her all day and only been a bit sore the next day..

Go take a demo for a ride .... [emoji106]

I am 6'4'' and 195lb.

I find the 1299 comfortable, my 916 and hypermotard the same. For me the comfort factor is helped very much by tank width and not reach to bars.

The Ducati is a thinner bike, obviously due to the cylinder layout but also because it does not have a massive airbox sat under the tank adding to width.

Nige

Steve NZ said:

Go take a demo for a ride .... [emoji106]

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I have but the kim britton (dealer) wasn't very happy i took it for a 15minute test ride.

And i wanted to know what it would be like on it for hours.

What ? ... I took an 1199s demo out for 3 hours ... That's what demo bikes are for .
Was getting my 1299 first service and they let me take a demo multistrada out for an hour , wasn't looking a buying it , just because it was there sitting there . Doesn't Kim Britton want to sell bikes ??

I'm going to our New Zealand Ducati Rally in March , will end up doing over 4500 km , have SW-Motech Blaze panniers for the trip ... All sorted .. Fantastic

derblott said:

6'3" 200lbs rider here.

I wouldn't call the 1299 "comfortable," but I can ride it all day at the track without any complaints or discomfort. My s1000rr used to bother my wrists towards the end of the day, and the Pani doesn't, although that's likely due to just better body position and me being less of a noob now.

The street is another matter, where it's more or less a torture device.

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To Derblott and others that are over 6ft tall, could you please post pictures of you riding the bike either street or track so we can see how it fits you?

6'3" 195lbs myself and curious to see. Thanks all!

I have the previous Xplane R1, heavily modified all the way around, but have also done the clip-ons, seat, and rear sets. I've owned 7 liter bikes and have a lot of experience modifying them all to be comfortable for all day twisty work.
For reference 90% of my riding is hard twisty riding, the other 10% track. I don't commute or bike night it, etc.

The 1299 is more comfortable than the 2015/2016 R1, by a good amount. The new R1 has a riding position extremely similar to a R6. It's compact, knees up real high, hunched over. Puts weight on your wrists. I'm 6'2" and it's hard to see the dash on the new R1.
The 1299 has more legroom and a shorter reach to the bars. It's the first Ducati I have ever ridden or sat on, in my life, that I immediately smiled and knew it would work. Been riding these things for 20 years so you know within 30 seconds of sitting on one.

I'd sit on both for an extended period of time at the stealers before you drop $20k. You'll know how they are stock and if you have experience modding for comfort, you'll have an idea on how much better you can make either. The R1 is too far stock to make enough of a difference for me. Plus I miss having a twin in the garage.

Short fella here 166cm. I found my reach to the handlebars of the 1299 was surprisingly easy compared with the R1, but the best thing I loved was how the footpegs felt higher and further back, took a while in getting used to (I've never ridden a bike with that body position). It puts you in a somewhat more aggressive 'attack' position, without having much weight put on your wrists.

I rode my 1199R from LA to SFO just stopping for gas and snacks. My friend rode my Diavel alongside. I didn't have a problem, but I wasn't comfortable going less than 70 mph. The air resistance tends to relieve the wrist pressure (even with solid core muscles LOL!).

I'm a short guy at 5'7", 165 lbs, 30" inseam. The Panigale can be ridden comfortably for long distances. City riding is jerky and uncomfortable. I use WET mode for stop/go instances. The ergos for me were great relative to other bikes besides the S1000RR.

The Diavel is more upright, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's more comfortable. I would say that my MTS1200 is extremely comfortable and confidence inspiring for pretty much anything/anywhere (within 300 miles of a Ducati dealer) except a photo shoot! I have an old R1150RT which is like a La-Z-Boy in a vacuum capsule in that I cannot feel or hear anything whilst riding it.

For my body (and mind), the Panigale is as close to perfection for what it is. Sportbike with a splash of *immense* visual appeal. It's not really a method of transportation, but mainly recreation.

Interesting comment about the Diavel. I would've thought it be much more comfortable.

I'm about your side with same inseam.

ecobully said:

I rode my 1199R from LA to SFO just stopping for gas and snacks. My friend rode my Diavel alongside. I didn't have a problem, but I wasn't comfortable going less than 70 mph. The air resistance tends to relieve the wrist pressure (even with solid core muscles LOL!).

I'm a short guy at 5'7", 165 lbs, 30" inseam. The Panigale can be ridden comfortably for long distances. City riding is jerky and uncomfortable. I use WET mode for stop/go instances. The ergos for me were great relative to other bikes besides the S1000RR.

The Diavel is more upright, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's more comfortable. I would say that my MTS1200 is extremely comfortable and confidence inspiring for pretty much anything/anywhere (within 300 miles of a Ducati dealer) except a photo shoot! I have an old R1150RT which is like a La-Z-Boy in a vacuum capsule in that I cannot feel or hear anything whilst riding it.

For my body (and mind), the Panigale is as close to perfection for what it is. Sportbike with a splash of *immense* visual appeal. It's not really a method of transportation, but mainly recreation.

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youngR said:

Interesting comment about the Diavel. I would've thought it be much more comfortable.

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At first, the Diavel was much more comfortable until my body started to get used to straddling the Panigale. I guess there is a type of muscle memory that takes place and this bike just feels perfect after two years. Whereas the Diavel was comfortable at first, but then longer rides would take a toll on my tailbone and knees.

I'm pretty sure I stay more static on the Diavel than when riding the Panigale where there are quite a few times where I am not really on the seat at all. That's not to say that the Diavel is not sport worthy. But it is to say that it's nothing compared to the Panigale in the mountains and track. I meant it when I said, "NOTHING!" Diavel is nice on slower rides and sweeping turns and for repetitive conversations at the fill up stations.