1299S home made slip on w/RB and Ducati map

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The reason of the thread was to find others that do their own work and exchange notes, get advise, see results.
Those who bought slip ons or complete systems, up map or other ECM performance modules also can give feedback on the performance and acoustic results.
That's what I am looking for. That's what hot rodding is all about.
I joint the panigale forum not the "wax the garage queen" one.
I will be the first one to quote Plato, I think, and admit that " the only think I know for sure
is that I don't know anything".
 
I'm not sure which one is worse .There is a reason most people don't make their own exhaust and you have clearly pointed it out .
Give yourself a Pat on the back for having a go .
 
I'm going to make my own set of wheels this weekend. Can't be hard? Right? One big round pipe? Spokey dokes in the middle?
 
Raptor 88 said:
I was ready for Dyno tuning but the RB module negates that for now.
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In what way?

As an "engineer" I assume you recognize that thermodynamics is a science.

If you don't have a baseline how will you validate and plot your "improvements" as you "improve" and TEST your exhaust designs?

What effect do you feel your design has had on the tuning frequency of your exhaust pulses? How would you know?

You do realize that without a patent Ducati could start selling your design out from under you, right? :D
 
Raptor 88 said:
The reason of the thread was to find others that do their own work and exchange notes, get advise, see results.
Those who bought slip ons or complete systems, up map or other ECM performance modules also can give feedback on the performance and acoustic results.
That's what I am looking for. That's what hot rodding is all about.
I joint the panigale forum not the "wax the garage queen" one.
I will be the first one to quote Plato, I think, and admit that " the only think I know for sure
is that I don't know anything".
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There's no way you posted that and thought all would go well. I don't think that everyone is bashing your exhaust, just the way you went about it. There's a right and wrong way to do things. I would at least expect better weld quality from a guy of your self proclaimed stature.

I've posted this before. Homemade in a one car garage:
 

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Raptor 88 said:
I will put it up against any acrapovic slip on.
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I wouldn't.

And I damn sure wouldn't put it up against any Akrapovic exhaust either.


But as always, that is just my opinion. Others may vary.
 
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Raptor 88 said:
It was something I wanted to do to explore some of the bike's potential......
I stepped up performance......

I don't look down to see my exaust.i don't race, don't pull wheelies, and most of the time I obey the traffic laws.
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If you don't race and normally obey traffic laws...I can't see how are you even getting within 50% of the bike's potential in bone stock. Much less exploring any potential beyond stock form.

How exactly can you tell the bike's performance increased? Do you always run the bike to redline in every gear and keep it above 5k RPM at all times? Have you kept up with segment times from your house to the grocery store?

Im not trolling, those are serious questions. You say you stepped up the performance of the bike with your homemade exhaust, how exactly do/can you quantify that statement?
 
anything that mitigates or eliminates that power dip around 5000rpm is going to feel better on the street. as that power dip has been established to be a result of the stock exhaust + stock ECU mapping, pretty much anything that changes both would help get rid of that.

obviously, exhaust design is a complex science - look at the spaghetti tubing that's the latest WSBK exhaust, and somehow that thing has helped Chaz Davies become faster. so ultimate top end performance can only be measured on a dyno or by lap times by professional riders.

otherwise, it's largely a game of "does it make you happy on your bike".
 
Raptor 88 said:
I wanted to do to explore some of the bike's potential.
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Get it on track then.


With regards to DIY exhaust builds.. If you going to do it at least do it properly

I quote " Over 100hrs including 30hrs for jig and tool, 150 separate pieces most of them tapered."

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For starters I think its awesome that you're doing this!! I can't believe how much trash talk some members are giving this guy for doing something different! Secondly

I owned a few Buell 1125R's in the past and The best exhaust was made in a guys shed! Great welds, solid performance increase, and looked very sharp too!

Yeah there was big manufactures out there building pipes but the price was crazy compared to the guy in the shed and they couldn't surpass his gains! Keep going I want to see how she looks!
 
all u had to do was send ur og exhaust to Phl here and not ruin the aesthetics of your bike while getting similar result...


pennywise, pound foolish -- if u can afford a pani but cant afford to do a mod right, well then...
 
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georgehitch18 said:
For starters I think its awesome that you're doing this!! I can't believe how much trash talk some members are giving this guy for doing something different! Secondly
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No one is trash talking the attempt at doing something different (at least no one serious). But when you start claiming performance gaine on your efforts (particularly in the absence of any quantifiable evidence) then you should expect some skepticism. Especially when you admit to no racing, strictly road, mostly speed-limit abiding, etc.
 
Charlie has a point. I have a feeling a lot of people laughed at the Britten V1000. Totally bizarre design, built in a garage....then it won races. That shut everyone up.

On the other hand, I don't think all established manufacturers carefully engineer EVERY exhaust design. I'm fairly certain the front-exit Termis I have were designed to be pretty first and foremost, and secondly to sound good. Shortening the total exhaust length is counter to every proven race exhaust that has been used on the Panigale.
 
Prince Albert said:
No one is trash talking"¦
"¦ Now please post more pics in the name of "science" :D
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Yeah I love the beautiful welds and clearly well thought out design. His design would also not need heat a heat shield as it will be in ICONEL (welded by himself I believe) which guarantees instant performance as AR has so clearly demonstrated while we while our time away waxing our Panis. :eek:
 

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