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I'm not sure which one is worse .There is a reason most people don't make their own exhaust and you have clearly pointed it out .
Give yourself a Pat on the back for having a go .
Give yourself a Pat on the back for having a go .
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Your own wax is the best wax everyone knows that .
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Too right wilkson, best of the best.
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In what way?
As an "engineer" I assume you recognize that thermodynamics is a science.
If you don't have a baseline how will you validate and plot your "improvements" as you "improve" and TEST your exhaust designs?
What effect do you feel your design has had on the tuning frequency of your exhaust pulses? How would you know?
You do realize that without a patent Ducati could start selling your design out from under you, right?
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There's no way you posted that and thought all would go well. I don't think that everyone is bashing your exhaust, just the way you went about it. There's a right and wrong way to do things. I would at least expect better weld quality from a guy of your self proclaimed stature.
I've posted this before. Homemade in a one car garage:
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I wouldn't.
And I damn sure wouldn't put it up against any Akrapovic exhaust either.
But as always, that is just my opinion. Others may vary.
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If you don't race and normally obey traffic laws...I can't see how are you even getting within 50% of the bike's potential in bone stock. Much less exploring any potential beyond stock form.
How exactly can you tell the bike's performance increased? Do you always run the bike to redline in every gear and keep it above 5k RPM at all times? Have you kept up with segment times from your house to the grocery store?
Im not trolling, those are serious questions. You say you stepped up the performance of the bike with your homemade exhaust, how exactly do/can you quantify that statement?
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anything that mitigates or eliminates that power dip around 5000rpm is going to feel better on the street. as that power dip has been established to be a result of the stock exhaust + stock ECU mapping, pretty much anything that changes both would help get rid of that.
obviously, exhaust design is a complex science - look at the spaghetti tubing that's the latest WSBK exhaust, and somehow that thing has helped Chaz Davies become faster. so ultimate top end performance can only be measured on a dyno or by lap times by professional riders.
otherwise, it's largely a game of "does it make you happy on your bike".
obviously, exhaust design is a complex science - look at the spaghetti tubing that's the latest WSBK exhaust, and somehow that thing has helped Chaz Davies become faster. so ultimate top end performance can only be measured on a dyno or by lap times by professional riders.
otherwise, it's largely a game of "does it make you happy on your bike".
Get it on track then.
With regards to DIY exhaust builds.. If you going to do it at least do it properly
I quote " Over 100hrs including 30hrs for jig and tool, 150 separate pieces most of them tapered."
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For starters I think its awesome that you're doing this!! I can't believe how much trash talk some members are giving this guy for doing something different! Secondly
I owned a few Buell 1125R's in the past and The best exhaust was made in a guys shed! Great welds, solid performance increase, and looked very sharp too!
Yeah there was big manufactures out there building pipes but the price was crazy compared to the guy in the shed and they couldn't surpass his gains! Keep going I want to see how she looks!
I owned a few Buell 1125R's in the past and The best exhaust was made in a guys shed! Great welds, solid performance increase, and looked very sharp too!
Yeah there was big manufactures out there building pipes but the price was crazy compared to the guy in the shed and they couldn't surpass his gains! Keep going I want to see how she looks!
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just core them and free them up
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No one is trash talking the attempt at doing something different (at least no one serious). But when you start claiming performance gaine on your efforts (particularly in the absence of any quantifiable evidence) then you should expect some skepticism. Especially when you admit to no racing, strictly road, mostly speed-limit abiding, etc.
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Charlie has a point. I have a feeling a lot of people laughed at the Britten V1000. Totally bizarre design, built in a garage....then it won races. That shut everyone up.
On the other hand, I don't think all established manufacturers carefully engineer EVERY exhaust design. I'm fairly certain the front-exit Termis I have were designed to be pretty first and foremost, and secondly to sound good. Shortening the total exhaust length is counter to every proven race exhaust that has been used on the Panigale.
On the other hand, I don't think all established manufacturers carefully engineer EVERY exhaust design. I'm fairly certain the front-exit Termis I have were designed to be pretty first and foremost, and secondly to sound good. Shortening the total exhaust length is counter to every proven race exhaust that has been used on the Panigale.
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No one is trash talking"¦
"¦ Now please post more pics in the name of "science"
"¦ Now please post more pics in the name of "science"
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No one is trash talking"¦
"¦ Now please post more pics in the name of "science"
Yeah I love the beautiful welds and clearly well thought out design. His design would also not need heat a heat shield as it will be in ICONEL (welded by himself I believe) which guarantees instant performance as AR has so clearly demonstrated while we while our time away waxing our Panis.
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polished chrome would look awesome
A lot of trash talk but no one has shown something they did themselves.
I asked for feedback on any performance mods by anyone and nothing.
If anyone put an exhaust, map, module or any combination and eliminated the flat midrange and stumble from idle to 3500k please tell. That's what I dislike on the panigale.
At least with what I have done so far I get very good midrange and 40% better low range.
Up top it has more power than I will ever use.
Ducati has to comply with EPA and DOD. I don't
If I had the pipes wrapped you guys wouldn't be stuck on the welds. May not look pretty yet but it works and since I have been riding for 40 years I can tell performance gains without a Dyno.
Spend yours or your daddy's money on a pretty exaust for minimal gains. I'll spend mine more effectively.
My track days stopped a long time ago, after tree accidents.
Don't get me wrong, I love the panigale but my priority is my family and my business.
And for those with the wise ass one sentence remarks, go learn which end of the screwdriver works and then we talk.For now go cry on your mom' arms and ask for more money.
I do want to thank those who understand what I am trying to do.
I asked for feedback on any performance mods by anyone and nothing.
If anyone put an exhaust, map, module or any combination and eliminated the flat midrange and stumble from idle to 3500k please tell. That's what I dislike on the panigale.
At least with what I have done so far I get very good midrange and 40% better low range.
Up top it has more power than I will ever use.
Ducati has to comply with EPA and DOD. I don't
If I had the pipes wrapped you guys wouldn't be stuck on the welds. May not look pretty yet but it works and since I have been riding for 40 years I can tell performance gains without a Dyno.
Spend yours or your daddy's money on a pretty exaust for minimal gains. I'll spend mine more effectively.
My track days stopped a long time ago, after tree accidents.
Don't get me wrong, I love the panigale but my priority is my family and my business.
And for those with the wise ass one sentence remarks, go learn which end of the screwdriver works and then we talk.For now go cry on your mom' arms and ask for more money.
I do want to thank those who understand what I am trying to do.
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