2023 V4R // 2023 SEASON

SuperDomestique · 2024-12-22T04:15:09-0800

spooky said:
Who was the organiser? Most is a fun circuit.

No transponders and choose your own group? That’s crazy. Pick your own group sticker… ideal for a certain type of person and dangerous for everyone else.

Who was the organization running this alleged trackday at Laguna where there’s a 70 mph speed difference?

It’s not choose your own group at least w the orgs that I ride with. Rather it’s good consistent and predictable riding that gets you into more advanced groups. Lap times alone don’t get you bumped.

When I was riding in the A group with PTT at Laguna spinning 1m45-50s laps, I never ran into any problems with faster riders. No one in the group had any issue w my riding. Everyone was respectful and speed differences were mainly at corner apex to exit which is the safest time to pass.

mayhan1980 · 2024-12-22T16:45:29-0800

spooky said:
Who was the organiser? Most is a fun circuit.

No transponders and choose your own group? That’s crazy. Pick your own group sticker… ideal for a certain type of person and dangerous for everyone else.

Moto Racing School GMBH, great organization. I love Most, great lay out. And close to Prague

I went two times to watch the WSBK and one time to ride it myself.
Yes, you get to pick your own group. I heard people say "I like the A group, they have better riders, I feel safer, B riders are sketchy".
I personally don't mind coming up on a slower rider with 5-6 seconds slower occasionally, but anything above 8-10 seconds does frustrate me.

mayhan1980 · 2024-12-22T16:58:37-0800

SuperDomestique said:
Who was the organization running this alleged trackday at Laguna where there’s a 70 mph speed difference?

It’s not choose your own group at least w the orgs that I ride with. Rather it’s good consistent and predictable riding that gets you into more advanced groups. Lap times alone don’t get you bumped.

When I was riding in the A group with PTT at Laguna spinning 1m45-50s laps, I never ran into any problems with faster riders. No one in the group had any issue w my riding. Everyone was respectful and speed differences were mainly at corner apex to exit which is the safest time to pass.

I don't want to put one organization down with Laguna example as this is a common problem with most organizations. They demoted that rider after 2 sessions of me complaining back to back.
I don't know you personally, haven't watched you riding either but if you're running 1:45-50, you should really take your time in B group no matter how predictable you are. There is no shame in being with the B group, and no pride of being an A rider. I just went to Chuckwalla for 2 days recently. I signed up A group for CCW direction, B group for CW direction. I've never done CW before and my pace was 8-9 seconds difference to CCW when I started lapping. At the end of the day I improved 5 seconds but my next one I will still do B group to take make sure I have my lines and markers down exactly to lap another 4-5 seconds faster to be adequate for A group. I was already the fastest guy in B group at the end of the day but what matters is that my lap times are still closer to fast B guys in CW.

SuperDomestique · 2024-12-22T20:44:24-0800

mayhan1980 said:
I don't want to put one organization down with Laguna example as this is a common problem with most organizations. They demoted that rider after 2 sessions of me complaining back to back.
I don't know you personally, haven't watched you riding either but if you're running 1:45-50, you should really take your time in B group no matter how predictable you are. There is no shame in being with the B group, and no pride of being an A rider. I just went to Chuckwalla for 2 days recently. I signed up A group for CCW direction, B group for CW direction. I've never done CW before and my pace was 8-9 seconds difference to CCW when I started lapping. At the end of the day I improved 5 seconds but my next one I will still do B group to take make sure I have my lines and markers down exactly to lap another 4-5 seconds faster to be adequate for A group. I was already the fastest guy in B group at the end of the day but what matters is that my lap times are still closer to fast B guys in CW.

Don’t mind riding in B’s. I think I honestly ride at a B+ level. Not fast, not slow. My thought is to always ride consistently and aim for good lines.

On this day, I asked to move up to A’s because I was significantly outpacing the B+ group (probably top 5 riders in a 30 rider group). I was even a bit trepidatious with this idea as I typically don’t ride A’s so I had a control rider ride with me in B+ and A’s. Got the green light and everyone in A’s was great to ride with despite being probably the slowest rider in the group. Also learned some good lines as I was mostly riding on my own in B+.

I’m also pretty sure this was a 90ish dB day so a lot of the faster riders stay away. I’ve ridden at a no dB limit day and the real fast guys come out of the wood work.

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