Notec,
Actually none of mine is incorrect, last time I checked, I am certified on Doppler and LIDAR, I'm pretty sure I can empirically state its abilities, regardless of your ninja crime evading tools.
You are spinning the conversation, we are talking about radar around a corner. Even if its left on, the detector is not gonna see it around a blind canyon corner. Of COURSE your detecter array will see doppler left on driving towards it. The only reason lazy cops leave it on all the time is for the idiots too busy texting while speeding and not watching the road ahead. They should get ticketed.
Funny as hell you argued the point that "no LEO will lock your speed in 4 milliseconds" that they will take 500 milliseconds…Dude, exactly how long does your bike take to decelerate from 89 mph to 40mph AFTER your brain has processed seeing the detector go off. You must have some serious carbon brakes to decelerate 49 mph in 499 milliseconds
If you have used so many LIDAR guns as you state, you know very well that if you can't get a lock, and get a "jam to gun" code thrown, the Officer just has to check speed on the vehicle next to you, you are flying past, and write you for careless operation.
"We have options people. For every threat, there exists an appropriate countermeasure."… Whats the threat, the cop running radar or you driving like a ......, and not taking responsibility for it?
(This is all said with total respect and proper tone)
NOLA
Sir, I respect what you do on the highest level and thanks for being respectful. I am an EE and have repaired/modified, tuned, tested, and enhanced many lidar and radar units. Not only do I have a great understanding of how they work in your hand, I understand how they work fundamentally and on a component level. In addition to this, I am a radar/lidar hobbiest. This includes the devices used for surveying and the devices used to counter the surveying equipment.
Radar is simply a radio wave. You have no way to stop it from reflecting and broadcasting. You can shorten the duration of the pulse (quick trigger or instant on), you can position your cruiser in such a way as to minimize the broadcast down the road (hide behind a support column, fire away from traffic, etc), but you can not conceal the broadcast. Point is, the good detectors out there, and there are more than a handful, will detect if your broadcast. Like it or not, even if you are the most careful Leo, you will be detected.
Also, I wasn't arguing out braking lidar. I was arguing the time you stated for target acquisition, which is simply incorrect. Almost all manufacturers state AT LEAST .2s or 200 milliseconds for target acquisition based on a perfect scenario. So if you are shooting a semi with a front plate, and your lidar gun is balanced on a tripod, door sill, or the roof of your cruiser, then perhaps it will be .2 secs. More realistically, it will be 500 milli seconds or greater for first acquisition. And for a vehicle with as tiny a profile as a motorcycle, no front plate, and not stationary, you don't have to guess that it will take longer to acquire it the vast majority of the time.
NOLO, I won't debate the tactics that you use versus the tactics that the hobbiests use. But I will tell you this, if you use lidar regularly for your profession, then you have likely been jammed and don't even know it. The systems available today are very very effective. I don't care if the gun is a 20+ year old LTI 20/20 Marksman or a newer Digital Ally / Dragon Eye concepts unit with variable pulse tech, they are all effectively jammed. Every single last one of them, and without jam codes. The beauty of electronics.
Sir, again the threat is the Leo who pulls over a 60 year old woman from out of state who is only trying to visit her family during the holidays. She was innocently traveling down the highway when the speed limit dropped from 70 to 65 to 50 mph in a span of a mile. The threat is when a Leo uses his or her lidar gun at a distance of 2000ft without understanding how much error a stacked diode array with a 3 milli radian dispersion really impacts his or her readings of a vehicle. The threat is when the Leo swears by the name of God that the black Challenger he lost sight of, is the same black Challenger that he just pulled over for speeding and evading, he then arrests the driver only to have to release him a day later because someone showed him video evidence that he really did pull over the wrong car. I am not implying that this is you. There are quite a few bad apples out there on both sides of the surveying equipment. Doesn't mean we are all bad apples though.
If a person is moving along at 30 mph above the flow of traffic while weaving in and out of traffic, of course that person should be arrested. But being on a canyon backroad all alone riding within ones limits like the OP, I think the Leo's response was reasonable.
PS, I've actually driven thru the canyons of Utah, and there ain't much out there besides really beautiful f'ing roads and scenery.
