950 wont wheelie like my 939 (DWC OFF)

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just upgraded to the 950 (stock) and Vs my old 939 (stock) with DWC=OFF i can't get it to get off the ground at all with a quick clutch pull and release while my 939 used to go up hige very nicely at 2nd gear on every pull out of a corner.

my only suspect is the Hydraulic clutch? or the more weight more lean fwd position on the bike makes the front heavier to lift?

im puzzled... :confused:
 
Assuming it's like my Panigale...Did you try turning DTC off as well? Engine power set to high? Race mode?

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The other thing that could be "off" is the clutch micro switch engagement. I adjusted both my Panigale and the Hyper when I converted to hydraulic clutch. It changes the mapping depending on if the switch is opened or closed. I didn't like where it was set from the factory. (too far out)

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RetardedTiming said:
The other thing that could be "off" is the clutch micro switch engagement. I adjusted both my Panigale and the Hyper when I converted to hydraulic clutch. It changes the mapping depending on if the switch is opened or closed. I didn't like where it was set from the factory. (too far out)

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tried that so the clutch engages earlier as possible, its tiny better but still needs a strong pull on the bars and wont power wheelie at all....weird i must admit im really puzzled, my 939 was a much more wheelie happy.
i set DWC=off DTC=1 bike on sport mode and in the sport mode set to Track.

ill ask the local dealer.
 
thinking on one more option...maybe changing the rear sprocket to 14 (think current is 15)? but may mess up the whole feel of the bike and top speed.
 
I tried switching to a 14T on my 939. Did not like it at all. Unlike the Panigale I lost too much top end and revved too high when cruising in 6th.

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Get it to your dealer.
My 950SP is a wheelie monster. Literally wants to pull in race mode on ANY aggressive throttle.
 
Moondognyc said:
Get it to your dealer.
My 950SP is a wheelie monster. Literally wants to pull in race mode on ANY aggressive throttle.
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really - i test rode the 950 today and could not wheely on the power in 2nd at all. Really dissapointed. Have you got the decat exhaust ?
 
I don’t understand why you can’t bring the front end up. There are plenty of videos of people doing it without problems.
Is it possible that you have the wheelie control all the way up? Make sure it is under 2 and it should definitely wheelie easily, no need to clutch it either.
 
jbequer said:
I don't understand why you can't bring the front end up. There are plenty of videos of people doing it without problems.
Is it possible that you have the wheelie control all the way up? Make sure it is under 2 and it should definitely wheelie easily, no need to clutch it either.
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I am used to wheelieing - I can clutch it up in second - but it definitely didn't want to wheelie on the power in 2nd though. So I sort of agree with the thread starter. I rode a completely standard 950. Perhaps the race exhaust makes the difference?
 
Stock exhaust and still wheelies easily ? Front end comes up without even trying sometimes.
Something you’re doing differently I guess?? Everyone has their own style of doing wheelies. I came from a motocross background, so wheelies are something that I commonly did to go over bumps and such. Get on the powerband and just give it gas steady until wheel starts to come up. Don’t pull or jerk back, just let the engine do it for you.
 
Went to the dealer and he changed some settings on my DTC =2
Also reduced ABS and obv DWC=off.
Can't say it changed much, bike will do a tiny power wheelie in 1st and 2nd.
Next thing is to check the SAG and maybe soften the back a bit and play with preload on the front to make the geometry less front Wheel loaded.
I also ride mx/enduro regularly and compete on a ktm350f, I know how to wheelie a bike and as I said my 939 on stock exhaust was a wheelie machine.
I'm on stock exhaust now and not planing to change, will ride a friend's 950 that has a Termi and come back with conclusions.
Still puzzled
P. S I'm 95kg 1.90 tall
 
Ok -0 going to correct my posts above. Went back to the dealer today and made sure DWC=off and could happily wheelie the bike in 2nd - but further up the rev range than I was trying before. Now I need to get one ordered!!
 
Tried following my dealer instructions with softening front and rear suspension and turning DTC=off.... Negligence difference and bike still very reluctant to lift the front wheel up.
Need tons of revs and massive pull to lift it it's not natural and scarry.
My only guess is maybe smtg is faulty on my DWC sensor keeping it full On even when display says OFF?
Can't figure it out?
 
There must be something wrong on your bike. Maybe have the dealer re-flash the ecu or something.
 

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