Akrapovic Full System Dyno Chart

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Trauma said:
Absolutely. This really is the best graph posted on this forum, and there have been dozens. For me, $4K is a lot to make a great sounding/performing bike, sound a little different/better and perform a little faster (for those that have already pushed the limit). So it really boils down to the look, for $4K :D
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Agreed. By all accounts it's a phenomenal system, but $4k certainly is a pretty penny.
 
For the road test on this bike we took a Panigale with Termi slip-on and the Panigale with the Akrapovic.
We took the bikes down a nice bit of road with no traffic.
I rode the Akrapovic bike down and the Termi bike back.
The other rider owns the bike with the Termi slip-on.

"It makes my bike feel like a 600" was his comment.

That is what 30% more in the midrange does.

The Termi slip-on has less drop in the midrange than the standard system or the full Termi system.
Tuning will not fill in the hole. The hole in the midrange is because of the pipe.
Other systems like the QD fill in the dip but you have a big pipe on the side of the bike.

If the price of the Akrapovic system is over the top I am sure the full Termi system is also over the top.

I see the Akrapovic system for $3400 and the full Termi system is not much less.
 
Trauma said:
There have been tons of custom tunes for the Pani posted here over the last year, nothing as strong and smooth as this. I really feel Akra took the time, and did it better than anyone else.
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Yes, custom tunes but not apples to apples. I mean same dyno, same tuner, somewhat same conditions, etc. Im all for the Akrapovic, I think its awesome. Im just wondering HOW much "better" it is than the Full Termi.

Does it make 4hp more than the full Termi at its peak? 2hp? 10hp?

Akra lists its gains as something like "17hp at 5,250 rpm" in the video. Which I find odd. Racing applications may never see as low as 5k rpm.

Just playing Devils Advocate here :p
 
I'm taking off my full termi's on Monday myself to swap on the full Akra's. Going to take pictures and measurements side by side to see if I can spot any differences in piping. While I'm not an engineer myself, hopefully someone on the board can figure out the reason for the difference in power.
 
Nitrouz said:
I'm taking off my full termi's on Monday myself to swap on the full Akra's. Going to take pictures and measurements side by side to see if I can spot any differences in piping. While I'm not an engineer myself, hopefully someone on the board can figure out the reason for the difference in power.
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Drill the rivets and take them apart!

;)
 
I think it's funny, no one wants to overlay a tuned Termi system dyno graph, over the AKRA with a dyno tune ? Why is that ?
Or let's really step out on a limb, how about the AR dyno graph ?
Don't get me wrong, the Akra looks like it does really well, just want to compare apples to apples.
 
Tom yfz said:
I think it's funny, no one wants to overlay a tuned Termi system dyno graph, over the AKRA with a dyno tune ? Why is that ?
Or let's really step out on a limb, how about the AR dyno graph ?
Don't get me wrong, the Akra looks like it does really well, just want to compare apples to apples.
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Because that would be irrelevant unless they were done at the same time on the same dyno in the same location.
 
Higgs, I agree
But right now were looking for the gains and justification over Termis, and I'm not sure there is 3500.00 plus the cost of a tune, value over the Termi.
 
Tom yfz said:
I think it's funny, no one wants to overlay a tuned Termi system dyno graph, over the AKRA with a dyno tune ? Why is that ?
Or let's really step out on a limb, how about the AR dyno graph ?
Don't get me wrong, the Akra looks like it does really well, just want to compare apples to apples.
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The companies producing other systems on the market have had plenty of time to promote their products and wow us by displaying examples of what a tuned version of their system can accomplish; none have stepped up to the plate like Akrapovic. Akra is entering the picture late, but this product seems to be the first system available that checks all of the boxes for Panigale owners. In my opinion, they are capturing a market segment that the competitors seem to have taken for granted.
 
Tom yfz said:
I think it's funny, no one wants to overlay a tuned Termi system dyno graph, over the AKRA with a dyno tune ? Why is that ?
Or let's really step out on a limb, how about the AR dyno graph ?
Don't get me wrong, the Akra looks like it does really well, just want to compare apples to apples.
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You assume that we have tuned a Panigale with the full system on our dyno and for some reason we don't want to post the result.
We have not had a Pani with full termi system on our Dyno, we have tuned one on a DynoJet dyno in Perth and compared to the AR on that same dyno. The Termi full system had a little less up top and the dip in the midrange was similar to the AR.

As for the AR please read my posts showing the graphs, The second power graph is comparing Akra and AR.
 
As for the AR please read my posts showing the graphs, The second power graph is comparing Akra and AR.


My bad, I did not look that far back in this thread, the results look very impressive.

Thanks for taking time to post these results.
 
Tom yfz said:
Higgs, I agree
But right now were looking for the gains and justification over Termis, and I'm not sure there is 3500.00 plus the cost of a tune, value over the Termi.
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Not sure I understand the maths there. How is a akra $3500 more than a full termi ?
 
I was referring to the fact that if you already had a Termi exhaust, is it worth buying again.
Looks and quality wise it definetly is.
 
Tom yfz said:
I was referring to the fact that if you already had a Termi exhaust, is it worth buying again.
Looks and quality wise it definetly is.
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Oops, sorry my mind reading is not so good today. Perhaps next time a bit more typing to make clear what you are saying for those of us without Vulcan mind reading power.

On another note, I bought my bike in May 2012. Since then have watched the debate rage on the forum. I am a veteran of the AR saga on the forum and like many survived. I know I know "don't mention the war" or AR. (Apologies to Fawlty Tower fans). I still have the std exhaust. I do not race so do not need more power.

I like the look of the Akra and the fact that it is light. Maybe it sounds better but hard to tell as you would need to stand next to one of each to compare and be able to make a judgement. The standard pipe sounds pretty good.

Now that a lot more info is coming out about the akra, I am glad I have waited because if I do change my pipes I will have more choice and be better informed. I think it is significant that Ducati fitted an akra to the SL instead of a new full ti termi.

If I am really honest though a akra system for me would just be bling, unless it improved midrange punch significantly.;)
 
It's all good Brad
I am not too good at writing stories.
In your position the Akra is the way to go if you want bling and power.
It's about a wash cost wise, compared to the full Termi.
I have an R, and it came with the full system, I track mine a lot, love the looks of the Akra, and I would need to have a performance gain to sway my decision.
Looks like there is more midrange power and torque, might be worth it?
 
bradp51 said:
Oops, sorry my mind reading is not so good today. Perhaps next time a bit more typing to make clear what you are saying for those of us without Vulcan mind reading power.

On another note, I bought my bike in May 2012. Since then have watched the debate rage on the forum. I am a veteran of the AR saga on the forum and like many survived. I know I know "don't mention the war" or AR. (Apologies to Fawlty Tower fans). I still have the std exhaust. I do not race so do not need more power.

I like the look of the Akra and the fact that it is light. Maybe it sounds better but hard to tell as you would need to stand next to one of each to compare and be able to make a judgement. The standard pipe sounds pretty good.

Now that a lot more info is coming out about the akra, I am glad I have waited because if I do change my pipes I will have more choice and be better informed. I think it is significant that Ducati fitted an akra to the SL instead of a new full ti termi.

If I am really honest though a akra system for me would just be bling, unless it improved midrange punch significantly.;)
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I can only comment in terms of sound since I've heard lardawge's pani which has the akra on it. Mine has the standard pipes and although it sounds decent, next to the akra it sounds nothing like it. Akra has a deeper bass (rumble) and only gets more mean with more grunt as the rpms increase whereas the standard pipes kinda get tinny sounding higher in the rpms. The lighter weight n increase power and torque are obvious but the sound is definitely louder than the termi full as well. Even if someone has a full termi, they could easily sell it n add to it some n get the akra. I for sure will be getting the akra down the road.
 
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Bass? What bass?


If someone in the Carolinas or GA gets his bike equipped with the akras, I'd like to come by and do a 1:1 comparison ;)
 
Phil said:
Bass? What bass?


If someone in the Carolinas or GA gets his bike equipped with the akras, I'd like to come by and do a 1:1 comparison ;)
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As good as the full systems are, coring out the stock cans to achieve improved performance and a much improved sound for under $500 seems like a very good value considering the significant price differential.
 

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