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JeffD said:
OK, I'm pretty sure this is my next bike now. Stay for the interview at the end for the Milwaukee BSB Team Manager's explanation of the new R1's "Slide Control". I'm looking forward to seeing what that's all about, hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paM_GlYYn14
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Yeah, I saw that video a couple days ago. Very nice. Are you planning on getting the R1M or the base? I have a deposit on an "M", first in line at my dealer, but with them being so limited I'm wondering if they're already sold out.
 
JeffD said:
OK, I'm pretty sure this is my next bike now. Stay for the interview at the end for the Milwaukee BSB Team Manager's explanation of the new R1's "Slide Control". I'm looking forward to seeing what that's all about, hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paM_GlYYn14
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Meh?!?! Just not into it I guess. Good luck with the buy though. It'll fun to see these on a track near you someday soon.
 
JeffD said:
OK, I'm pretty sure this is my next bike now. Stay for the interview at the end for the Milwaukee BSB Team Manager's explanation of the new R1's "Slide Control". I'm looking forward to seeing what that's all about, hehe:
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That was interesting about the slide control explaination and that they have to take it all off for BSB.

What I thought was even more interesting will be all these new bikes with all the technology racing against each other in superstock. I think that will be some great racing. I'm curious to see the results...

The looks are growing on me for the R1M and the only big issue I have with the looks is the lunch box exhaust under the belly that just looks like junk... I'm sure there will be aftermarket exhaust and belly pan to fix this.
 
I wish Yamaha would return to WSBK with the new bike. I actually think Ducati should have the advantage next year with the EVO rules, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
Eleven 99 said:
Yeah, I saw that video a couple days ago. Very nice. Are you planning on getting the R1M or the base? I have a deposit on an "M", first in line at my dealer, but with them being so limited I'm wondering if they're already sold out.
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Just like I went with the base model 1199, I'm going with the base model R1. Unless I'm missing something, the "M" version differences are the electronic Ohlins and the carbon fiber bodywork - the Yamaha version of DDA+ with GPS comes with the M but is available separately for the base, just like the Panigale R and base. Even with the CF, it weighs a claimed 4 pounds more than the base R1. I'm sure that is down to the electronic Ohlins, which Ducati also decided to ditch from the 2015 Panigale R, interestingly enough.

I still find that Ohlins FGRT forks are better IMHO (billet lowers at least) than the OEM electronic street stuff, and when made available I can get the FGRT forks and TTX GP shock for less than the price difference between an R1M and base.

I'm confused a bit about the magnesium wheels that come on both bikes. Why did they go with magnesium for only 2 pounds difference (mostly on the rear wheel) from the current generation R1 wheels? They could have gone with forged aluminum like OZ Piega and saved at least 4 pounds on the set - current R1 wheels are about the same as S1000RR wheels, meaning heavy. I guess beefing them up for street use and DOT standards worldwide made them quite robust and heavier.

Can't wait to see what exhaust options there are. My 09 R1 had a full Graves low-mount system and truly sounds like a M1 or Aprilia V4-powered MotoGP bike. Maybe I've posted this too many times, but seriously, listen to this video clip of my old R1 at Daytona with good headphones - this sound is pure ecstasy! Only now with the balls to back up that bark! Skip to about 1:05 to really hear a good lap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdTikt_dx4


I'm going with the Red/White and February couldn't come soon enough.
 
Eleven 99 said:
I wish Yamaha would return to WSBK with the new bike. I actually think Ducati should have the advantage next year with the EVO rules, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Like b9009b said, they're definitely coming back. The Milwaukee Yamaha BSB team and probably other national championships will run the bike in 2015 to help with the development in preparation for a full-on 2016 title attack. Perhaps they'll do like Ducati did and run it in FIM Superstock 1000 and see how it fares against the Panigale R and ZX-10R which currently dominate that series. Clearly, FIM Superstock 1000 is a much better comparison of the bikes we can buy vs. WSBK.

The 2015 rules were modified again mid-season so its not really Evo-spec anymore. There are price caps for parts but engine internals can still be modded out so WSBK will again not be representative of what the stock bikes are like. I think Tom Sykes will come back with a vengeance and take it again like he did in 2013 after narrowly losing to Biaggi in 2012. Wonder if Johnny Rea will finally come good too, but my money is on Kawasaki winning again.
 
JeffD said:
Just like I went with the base model 1199, I'm going with the base model R1. Unless I'm missing something, the "M" version differences are the electronic Ohlins and the carbon fiber bodywork - the Yamaha version of DDA+ with GPS comes with the M but is available separately for the base, just like the Panigale R and base. Even with the CF, it weighs a claimed 4 pounds more than the base R1. I'm sure that is down to the electronic Ohlins, which Ducati also decided to ditch from the 2015 Panigale R, interestingly enough.

I still find that Ohlins FGRT forks are better IMHO (billet lowers at least) than the OEM electronic street stuff, and when made available I can get the FGRT forks and TTX GP shock for less than the price difference between an R1M and base.

I'm confused a bit about the magnesium wheels that come on both bikes. Why did they go with magnesium for only 2 pounds difference (mostly on the rear wheel) from the current generation R1 wheels? They could have gone with forged aluminum like OZ Piega and saved at least 4 pounds on the set - current R1 wheels are about the same as S1000RR wheels, meaning heavy. I guess beefing them up for street use and DOT standards worldwide made them quite robust and heavier.

Can't wait to see what exhaust options there are. My 09 R1 had a full Graves low-mount system and truly sounds like a M1 or Aprilia V4-powered MotoGP bike. Maybe I've posted this too many times, but seriously, listen to this video clip of my old R1 at Daytona with good headphones - this sound is pure ecstasy! Only now with the balls to back up that bark! Skip to about 1:05 to really hear a good lap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdTikt_dx4


I'm going with the Red/White and February couldn't come soon enough.
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Bike sounds very mean!

SportRider just did an article on the M and mentioned something I didn't know about it.

Applications for the limited-edition YZF-R1M can be submitted starting on December 1, 2014 and while there was no official word of exactly how many models will hit US shores, it was said that distributors will use their discretion when managing the allocation of R1M models. Yamaha has of course sweetened the pot by inviting each R1M owner to one of its Yamaha Racing Experience (YRE) events (of which there are four in July 2015, all across Europe). Here, R1M owners will have access to on-track training and technicians who can provide race set-up advice.
2015 Yamaha YZF-R1M First Look | Sport Rider
 
I think it will make a great track bike either variants of it. I like the regular r1 better and the upgrades you said jeff are a big step better and cheaper than the price difference.
 
Eleven 99 said:
Bike sounds very mean!

SportRider just did an article on the M and mentioned something I didn't know about it.

Applications for the limited-edition YZF-R1M can be submitted starting on December 1, 2014 and while there was no official word of exactly how many models will hit US shores, it was said that distributors will use their discretion when managing the allocation of R1M models. Yamaha has of course sweetened the pot by inviting each R1M owner to one of its Yamaha Racing Experience (YRE) events (of which there are four in July 2015, all across Europe). Here, R1M owners will have access to on-track training and technicians who can provide race set-up advice.
2015 Yamaha YZF-R1M First Look | Sport Rider
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Very cool. Unfortunately they probably wouldn't be at any track near me. I'd pay to go to that event though if I had a base R1 though.
 
That is a cool incentive and the more and more I look at the new R1, the more I can see it being one bad ... machine in race trim.

I had the 1st gen R1 and that was when bikes were simple yet sexy.

R1.jpg
 
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RRnold said:
That is a cool incentive and the more and more I look at the new R1, the more I can see it being one bad ... machine in race trim.

I had the 1st gen R1 and that was when bikes were simple yet sexy.

R1.jpg
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Pic brings back memories. I had a '99 R1, back then the R1 was the bike to have until the GSXR1000 came out.
 
"classic"

My first liter bike was the R1.
Lots of fun but a big bike for the track.
 

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JeffD said:
Like b9009b said, they're definitely coming back. The Milwaukee Yamaha BSB team and probably other national championships will run the bike in 2015 to help with the development in preparation for a full-on 2016 title attack. Perhaps they'll do like Ducati did and run it in FIM Superstock 1000 and see how it fares against the Panigale R and ZX-10R which currently dominate that series. Clearly, FIM Superstock 1000 is a much better comparison of the bikes we can buy vs. WSBK.

The 2015 rules were modified again mid-season so its not really Evo-spec anymore. There are price caps for parts but engine internals can still be modded out so WSBK will again not be representative of what the stock bikes are like. I think Tom Sykes will come back with a vengeance and take it again like he did in 2013 after narrowly losing to Biaggi in 2012. Wonder if Johnny Rea will finally come good too, but my money is on Kawasaki winning again.
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The modifications allowed are still very minimal. Cams are free, head porting is allowed, and aftermarket rods are allowed to be of different materials, but must weigh the same as stock. Crank, valves, pistons etc all have to remain as homogolated. The electronics are still going to be pretty spendy, but just about anyone could have a similar spec bike for not much investment. Actually, consumers can get better rods and pistons very easily.
 
Interesting that no one's mentioned the linked brakes yet. Yep, one finger works both wheels, but this time with performance in mind, and enhanced by that IMU. So you get on the fly brake balance adjustment via ECU that changes for lean angle, decel rate, etc. Wonder if they've got the rear brake tied into the TC as well; most of the current-gen ABS units offer that functionality.
 
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Looks a lot better in race bodywork.
 

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