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Unsprung weight....time for a physics lesson.
Ducati has quoted wrong weight numbers before on almost every model.....DES, ABS, & Leds make the S alot more heavy than a Base without the ABS.....I could use some extra money for mods if any body wants to put some bet money up lol....even if you see mods jumping into n S territory....in the long run any mods done to n S will put you over 30k....thats crazy when you think about it.....main reason I went for the base was because I don't believe in financing a bike....Cash Only for bikes 
.....P.S. 2lbs diff with wheels if you buy the michelin power pures lol....lot cheaper than new wheels
.....P.S. 2lbs diff with wheels if you buy the michelin power pures lol....lot cheaper than new wheels
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See, I'm so glad I didn't change for an S, otherwise I would be feeling a sucker right now
No, I convinced myself that the bargain of the range was the Tric!!!
Do the math - its obvious - I just told the misses it coms with free slip-ons
No, I convinced myself that the bargain of the range was the Tric!!!
Do the math - its obvious - I just told the misses it coms with free slip-ons
actually I agree with you....Base n Tri are the true bargains....mainly because u get slip ons......but advertisement....man....90% go for it lol.....Des is the true separation of the S n Base....not no Dam 5lb wheels haha....cant be serious
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And it's going to be much harder to sell in a few years.
Sure can, I'd take 5lbs off my wheels any day before electronic damping clickers. Heck you can already adjust the base model's rear damping on the fly since the clickers are in easy reach from the saddle. Top shelf Ohlins bits the DES is plugged into of course, which is where the real value is. But we'll see in time how the base units' damping stack up against the Ohlins; the label alone isn't certain proof. Take the Ohlins on Triumph's Daytona 765R for example; the springing and damping are a good bit stiffer than the stocker's, which are already on the stiff side for a light rider (like moi), so until you re-spring/re-valve you're not going to see the value. Heck, those things run stiffer shim stacks than guys are running on literbikes in AMA SBK.
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Was told the base is the lightest of all three models. Apparently the weight of the LED ballasts and the ABS make up for more than the difference of the wheels. The Marzocchi forks are also said to be top notch.
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The wet weight is listed as the same. But the point is that the unsprung weight of the wheels will still make a significant difference.
Exactly that....and whether it makes enough of a difference to justify the additional cost (along with the other bits and pieces) is down to personal judgement, likely use and of course budget. Time will tell.
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... and personal skill and possibilities to ride out these advantages.
i guess us base riders will have to compensate higher unsprung mass and rotatory braking moment by pure madness
i guess us base riders will have to compensate higher unsprung mass and rotatory braking moment by pure madness
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LOL... whoever told you that doesn't know much about lights
LED lights are nothing more than diodes, darn goods ones, but they're still just diodes. Unlike HID lights, they do not need a "ballast" to fire up.
They do have a relatively narrow tolerance to heat, like all diodes, so will most likely need a fairly good heatsink for each light. Perhaps this is what your source is referring to.
Btw.. I didn't think the S came std with ABS.
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Totally agree.. whilst a few kgs here and there may go unnoticeable to most riders. a few kgs of additional unsprung weight (ie in the wheels) will be noticed by most people.
LOL... whoever told you that doesn't know much about lights
LED lights are nothing more than diodes, darn goods ones, but they're still just diodes. Unlike HID lights, they do not need a "ballast" to fire up.
They do have a relatively narrow tolerance to heat, like all diodes, so will most likely need a fairly good heatsink for each light. Perhaps this is what your source is referring to.
Btw.. I didn't think the S came std with ABS.
I have handled both headlights and the "S" LED one is considerably heavier than the standard version
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I didn't comment on the weight.. I was stating that LEDs don't requie a ballast. The additional weight is most likely in the heatsink.
Mind you... I'd take +10kg lights, if I could get -2Kgs off the wheels any day of the week..
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... and personal skill and possibilities to ride out these advantages.
i guess us base riders will have to compensate higher unsprung mass and rotatory braking moment by pure madness
Yep. until we have totally exploit the potential of what the base could achieve, for only a handful then these light wheels could then make that tangible difference of shaving .xx seconds..to win a trophy/price money (if there really is).
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Skip McDonalds this month....cheaper than buying carbon bits to save weight.
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