Aprilia RSV4R Factory versus 1199

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iamlance said:
Reminds me of my first ride on the Pani. I was 2 miles from my destination, 90 miles into the ride, had to stop. Couldn't ride another inch. I remember getting off of the bike, walking around it and thinking "how could anything that looks that good be so awful?" Like landing a date with a supermodel and she's a .... from minute one.
Changed the seat and rear sets, somewhat better.
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fireman1251 said:
With those headlights and overall design, that poor Ape ends up looking like the ginger stepchild and it will never bring out the passion the way the Pani does ( any RSV4 forums as active as this one?).
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More of the same Ford vs. Chevy thing. Back in 2000, I owned an Aprilia RSV Mille R when they first entered the superbike market and came to America. The Aprilia Forums were started back then and were a rabid bunch, learning about a new platform and how to mod it. Great group.

Now with 68,000+ members and 3,000,000+ posts, I think you can safely say that they are a passionate bunch and will argue all day that the RSV Factory trumps the Pani... ApriliaForum sponsored by AF1 Racing, inc.
 
Sorry guys..no offence, but I've had both bikes and the aprilia is the better machine..hands down at this point..Maybe some development will turn the tides, but the Ape does everything...everything better and easier than the Pani. I've seen some dyno's that say the Duc puts more down, but not sure how, cause it doesn't feel it at all.
Pani is better eye candy for sure, but the truth is it stops there.The Factory is a sick bike that is easy to go fast on and it's not a chore. Forums are for opinions and the truth and the Ape is the better bike hands down
 
I'm definitely not insane enough to try and convince someone on a Ducati forum that anything but a Ducati is the bike for them. I like my tar on roofs and my feathers in pillows...

But you MUST factor in more than lust and looks. Otherwise, the bike is just as likely to sit in the garage because it's a PITA to ride anywhere else. Pay $$$$$$ for a bike that looks good but sucks anywhere but a track? Where, by the way, you'll strip off all those pretty fairings for track plastics.

Otherwise one day your ass will be hurting, you'll be sending the bike to the dealer to replace the left controls after 6k miles or some guy on a "lesser" bike will dust you thoroughly and you'll get utterly fed up with your decision.
 
iamlance said:
Reminds me of my first ride on the Pani. I was 2 miles from my destination, 90 miles into the ride, had to stop. Couldn't ride another inch. I remember getting off of the bike, walking around it and thinking "how could anything that looks that good be so awful?" Like landing a date with a supermodel and she's a .... from minute one.
Changed the seat and rear sets, somewhat better.
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That's how my F4 felt...lol.

Funny how different the bikes are from person to person. Still hoping you get yours sorted soon so you will love it. I am taking mine in on tues and will ask them about yours. Any more info to add as to what the problem is I can tell them?
 
I don't like the new gen Aprilias, I prefer the previous gen. The front end looks too much like a ....... Honda. And I can't be seen on a Honda :D .

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Stw said:
I am considering...Don't flame me.. Selling my 1199 and buying an '13 Aprilia Rsv4r Aprc Abs Factory ....

Obviously this is a Panigale forum so views will be biased but they will also be on the Ape forum too... so I have to start somewhere...:)

Can anyone give me any input on this bike?? It has Ohlins ..Carbon.. Adjustable swing arm.. adjustable steering geometry..Abs.. Brembos and its (Imo) a sweet looking bike...

I was considering a Hp4 but I rode a S1000 Saturday with an Akra pipe and whilst that bike is wicked..so wicked in m any ways.. It has very little torque and even less personality... Very disappointing actually..

So at the risk of getting beaten up..Aprilia??? Good bad or indifferent??
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Stw,

A couple of weeks ago, I got to visually compare a brand new Aprila RSV4R with my 1199 Tricolore. Side by side.

I noticed the clocks on the Aprila go up to 15K rpm !

Now my buddy was delighted with his Aprila (and he has a 1098), he claimed the power delivery was smooth. He has not riden a 1199.

The Aprila is a sweat bike, great looks.

Knowing me he pitched real hard for me to get one, I patiently listened to all his pluses (no minuses were mentioned) and I basically concluded, yes the Aprila is a great looking bike, I prefer the 1199 hands down and across the board. Side by Side the 1199 just looks better and more advanced. I have enough hassle trying to get parts (often cash down and with 2+ months lead time), thus I really do not want to own an Aprilla and have to tolerate even worse parts availability issues.

If I was to get another bike I would be far more likely to get a 1199 R with a Termi Pro exhaust.

Trust this helps.
 
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CaliDuc said:
Stw,

A couple of weeks ago, I got to visually compare a brand new Aprila RSV4R with my 1199 Tricolore. Side by side.

I noticed the clocks on the Aprila go up to 15K rpm !

Now my buddy was delighted with his Aprila (and he has a 1098), he claimed the power delivery was smooth. He has not riden a 1199.

The Aprila is a sweat bike, great looks.

Knowing me he pitched real hard for me to get one, I patiently listened to all his pluses (no minuses were mentioned) and I basically concluded, yes the Aprila is a great looking bike, I prefer the 1199 hands down and across the board. Side by Side the 1199 just looks better and more advanced. I have enough hassle trying to get parts (often cash down and with 2+ months lead time), thus I really do not want to own an Aprilla and have to tolerate even worse parts availability issues.

I would be far more likely to get a 1199 R with a Termi Pro exhaust.

Trust this helps.
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Cali


Thanks for that insight.. I do believe that the parts issues have largely been addressed by Piaggio and what you are referring to is some what historical.. Looks?? Well that's always going to be subjective but its hard to argue the 1199 is simply a beautiful looking bike... so any other bike I might buy would be a "step down" in that dept.

My biggest issue right now is the difference between my bike and the Rsv4r Factory is $6500 ...thats what it would cost me to change.. and that right now is simply not gonna happen.. I could buy a pretty good track bike for that (Daytona 675 :D) used of course... so I am going to sit tight and see what 2014 brings in the way of a new Aprilia ...

But I do not see myself getting another Ducati as and when I decide to change bikes in the future... and as I am not now a fan of the Beemer..The Ape seems to be somewhat of an inevitability ... But we shall see

Thank you for sharing anyway...:)
 
Stw said:
Cali


Thanks for that insight.. I do believe that the parts issues have largely been addressed by Piaggio and what you are referring to is some what historical.. Looks?? Well that's always going to be subjective but its hard to argue the 1199 is simply a beautiful looking bike... so any other bike I might buy would be a "step down" in that dept.

My biggest issue right now is the difference between my bike and the Rsv4r Factory is $6500 ...thats what it would cost me to change.. and that right now is simply not gonna happen.. I could buy a pretty good track bike for that (Daytona 675 :D) used of course... so I am going to sit tight and see what 2014 brings in the way of a new Aprilia ...

But I do not see myself getting another Ducati as and when I decide to change bikes in the future... and as I am not now a fan of the Beemer..The Ape seems to be somewhat of an inevitability ... But we shall see

Thank you for sharing anyway...:)
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Sounds like very good reasoning.
 
that's the wrong view. it's on the other side that counts. and both those bikes are superior for street, out of the box that is.



FrostyFire said:
I don't like the new gen Aprilias, I prefer the previous gen. The front end looks too much like a ....... Honda. And I can't be seen on a Honda :D .

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FrostyFire said:
Pipe down Honda lover :D.
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I'm sorry but I just can't bring myself to buy a bike from a company that believes that they win championships strictly because of their bike and that all you need to ride it is a trained monkey. Oops, they did get a monkey, Pedrobot!
 
Twistedracer said:
I'm sorry but I just can't bring myself to buy a bike from a company that believes that they win championships strictly because of their bike and that all you need to ride it is a trained monkey. Oops, they did get a monkey, Pedrobot!
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But at least they win....;)
 
Twistedracer said:
I'm sorry but I just can't bring myself to buy a bike from a company that believes that they win championships strictly because of their bike and that all you need to ride it is a trained monkey. Oops, they did get a monkey, Pedrobot!
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And their bike IS better:eek:
 
Stw said:
But at least they win....;)
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Because of their riders and I'm not referring to Pedrobot :D

I will admit I've had a few Hondas in the past. A 95 Chris 900, 95 Goldwing (lasted 8 months, I'll never be that old), and an 03 RC51. Refused to buy another one since. It's just silly how I choose to buy my bikes. I bought an 07 R1 because Yamaha took out full page adds congratulating Hayden on his championship while Hondas adds congratulated their own bikes for winning. Go figure. ;)
 
precisely my point!

FrostyFire said:
It's the right view because that's what you'll be looking at when it's parked at Starbucks all day.
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and how can you slam Pedrosa? or any of those guys? and how can you bash Honda? it's a fantastic bike! this is all chintzy snobbery here.
 
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