AR Inconel Install

WAfatboy said:

This is the right side with no sticker. It's made of metal and a bit of a ..... to get off. I used a carpet knife blade to carefully lift the edges and then a set of grips to gradually pull off. Hard to get the residual edhesive off and some discolouration is still visible. Would have been better to have no sticker, or a more subtle integration of the logo. Anyway its gone now and the setup looks great.

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Looks great. Rich, Is the extra cut out for cooling or just for meanness?

ttkarp said:

Looks great. Rich, Is the extra cut out for cooling or just for meanness?

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Ye could we have one without the cutout or with a full belly pan i.e. carbon joining the two pieces underneath into one carbon piece?

It's to stop it burning, it also allowed us to get the carbon panels snugly fitting. It also looks mean and mimics the upper cut out.

Same with the left but you still need heat tape in places to stop the scorching.

Rich22 said:

It's to stop it burning, it also allowed us to get the carbon panels snugly fitting. It also looks mean and mimics the upper cut out.

Same with the left but you still need heat tape in places to stop the scorching.

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are you including that heat tape? or is that extra step one must do upon install?

We include it but since the first batch we now provide a better grade and more of it. If in doubt use extra.

Rich22 said:

We include it but since the first batch we now provide a better grade and more of it. If in doubt use extra.

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thx rich. just curious, why don't you guys apply it correctly before sending off? is it liability issue?

We do apply it to our parts but some is for your stock side fairing.

Rich22 said:

We do apply it to our parts but some is for your stock side fairing.

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excellent. i didn't see any of it in WAf's box nor on the backside of his carbon pieces since he didn't show verso side.

thx for clarifying!

We tuned Copiya's bike with the AR exhaust yesterday.
First we ran the bike with the RapidBike and the supplied map to get a base line.
In the low throttle area we saw A/F ratio's in the 16/1 range, this is not a fault of the RapidBike module. More to do with the closed loop stuff that the standard ECU does.
In the midrange the A/F was a bit up and down. Down into the 11/1 area in some places.
Full throttle saw the A/F looking better.
The result on our dyno was 187 HP with the RapidBike module.

We removed the RapidBike module completely.

Next we reflashed the bike with the TuneBoy software and did the mapping of the standard ECU.
The result at full throttle was not much different to the result with the RapidBike module, this was to be expected as the RapidBike had a map for this exhaust.
The best run after tuning with the TuneBoy was 190 HP.

Part throttle was a different matter.
Here is a graph showing the Air/Fuel ratio for front and rear cylinders at 29% throttle.
The red lines are the A/F values before mapping with the TuneBoy software.
The blue lines are the A/F values for front and rear cylinders after tuning.



The next graph shows the same data for 39% throttle.



We also added the cruise control option to the bike.

Now we need to wait for a ride report from Copiya.

It will be interesting to see how this map works when WAF gets his bike tuned later this week.
I would expect it to need some adjustments to match the bike but it should be a good starting point.

wmcdonal said:

We tuned Copiya's bike with the AR exhaust yesterday.
First we ran the bike with the RapidBike and the supplied map to get a base line.
In the low throttle area we saw A/F ratio's in the 16/1 range, this is not a fault of the RapidBike module. More to do with the closed loop stuff that the standard ECU does.
In the midrange the A/F was a bit up and down. Down into the 11/1 area in some places.
Full throttle saw the A/F looking better.
The result on our dyno was 187 HP with the RapidBike module.

We removed the RapidBike module completely.

Next we reflashed the bike with the TuneBoy software and did the mapping of the standard ECU.
The result at full throttle was not much different to the result with the RapidBike module, this was to be expected as the RapidBike had a map for this exhaust.
The best run after tuning with the TuneBoy was 190 HP.

Part throttle was a different matter.
Here is a graph showing the Air/Fuel ratio for front and rear cylinders at 29% throttle.
The red lines are the A/F values before mapping with the TuneBoy software.
The blue lines are the A/F values for front and rear cylinders after tuning.

The next graph shows the same data for 39% throttle.

We also added the cruise control option to the bike.

Now we need to wait for a ride report from Copiya.

It will be interesting to see how this map works when WAF gets his bike tuned later this week.
I would expect it to need some adjustments to match the bike but it should be a good starting point.

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Great work Wayne. That's very promising indeed.

Copiya - seat of the pants review mate!

wmcdonal said:

We tuned Copiya's bike with the AR exhaust yesterday.
First we ran the bike with the RapidBike and the supplied map to get a base line.
In the low throttle area we saw A/F ratio's in the 16/1 range, this is not a fault of the RapidBike module. More to do with the closed loop stuff that the standard ECU does.
In the midrange the A/F was a bit up and down. Down into the 11/1 area in some places.
Full throttle saw the A/F looking better.
The result on our dyno was 187 HP with the RapidBike module.

We removed the RapidBike module completely.

Next we reflashed the bike with the TuneBoy software and did the mapping of the standard ECU.
The result at full throttle was not much different to the result with the RapidBike module, this was to be expected as the RapidBike had a map for this exhaust.
The best run after tuning with the TuneBoy was 190 HP.

Part throttle was a different matter.
Here is a graph showing the Air/Fuel ratio for front and rear cylinders at 29% throttle.
The red lines are the A/F values before mapping with the TuneBoy software.
The blue lines are the A/F values for front and rear cylinders after tuning.

The next graph shows the same data for 39% throttle.

We also added the cruise control option to the bike.

Now we need to wait for a ride report from Copiya.

It will be interesting to see how this map works when WAF gets his bike tuned later this week.
I would expect it to need some adjustments to match the bike but it should be a good starting point.

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Nice.... are you able to post the power curve? would be interesting to see how and if it affects the mid range power hole.

AR Exhaust & Tuneboy

wmcdonal said:

Now we need to wait for a ride report from Copiya.

It will be interesting to see how this map works when WAF gets his bike tuned later this week.
I would expect it to need some adjustments to match the bike but it should be a good starting point.

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The charts shown in wmcdonal's post translated to a rough bottom end with mild surging during part throttle acceleration and again during constant throttle/speed. This was not very pleasant especially in traffic.
I will post some video later that I took of the bike accelerating hard from a stand still and you will see/hear what I'm talking about.

After spending a few hours with wmcdonal at the Tuneboy HQ here is my short review.

The results are absolutely amazing.

Peak power when compared to the RB was insignificant (3hp gain) however my AF ratios are now perfect right through the range (as per the graphs) and we even amended the throttle openings from factory spec to provide maximum HP throughout. All of this is done via a reflash of the stock ecu and this can not be done via any piggy back period!

I can't put into words how happy I am with this result, this is a completely new beast, It is so strong, smooth and linear from anywhere in the range I can't get the grin off my face.

It is smoother than it has ever been before and puts down a clean 190HP with outright authority.

Oh and the freaking sound when it's on song like this is simply out of this world!

The AR exhaust with Tune Boy engine management is the only way to go as far as I'm concerned. What an amazing result, this is the ultimate performance combination.

It all comes together for me now, it looks amazing sounds amazing and the performance is wickedly amazing.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention, they even installed cruise control on my bike.
I can set the speed at any time using the start button and the menu up/down keys reduce or increase the speed by 1km/h increments, it speeds up on hills and decelerates down hills, as soon as the brake or clutch are pulled, it switches off. How cool is that.

I seriously couldn't be happier, thanks to Austin Racing for the master piece exhaust and to Tuneboy for the icing on the cake.

It just cant get any better than this.

WAFatboy - you are in for a real treat my friend

Copiya said:

The charts shown in wmcdonal's post translated to a rough bottom end with mild surging during part throttle acceleration and again during constant throttle/speed. This was not very pleasant especially in traffic.
I will post some video later that I took of the bike accelerating hard from a stand still and you will see/hear what I'm talking about.

After spending a few hours with wmcdonal at the Tuneboy HQ here is my short review.

The results are absolutely amazing.

Peak power when compared to the RB was insignificant (3hp gain) however my AF ratios are now perfect right through the range (as per the graphs) and we even amended the throttle openings from factory spec to provide maximum HP throughout. All of this is done via a reflash of the stock ecu and this can not be done via any piggy back period!

I can't put into words how happy I am with this result, this is a completely new beast, It is so strong, smooth and linear from anywhere in the range I can't get the grin off my face.

It is smoother than it has ever been before and puts down a clean 190HP with outright authority.

Oh and the freaking sound when it's on song like this is simply out of this world!

The AR exhaust with Tune Boy engine management is the only way to go as far as I'm concerned. What an amazing result, this is the ultimate performance combination.

It all comes together for me now, it looks amazing sounds amazing and the performance is wickedly amazing.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention, they even installed cruise control on my bike.
I can set the speed at any time using the start button and the menu up/down keys reduce or increase the speed by 1km/h increments, it speeds up on hills and decelerates down hills, as soon as the brake or clutch are pulled, it switches off. How cool is that.

I seriously couldn't be happier, thanks to Austin Racing for the master piece exhaust and to Tuneboy for the icing on the cake.

It just cant get any better than this.

WAFatboy - you are in for a real treat my friend

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I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that

Delighted to hear they have solved your issues, great news.

I'm not hanging out for 190hp because the dyno we're on is conservative so the peak number won't be the same. There is no reason why I shouldn't see the same gains though because they'll using your map as a starting point given we have the same exhaust. I'll take it to BunburyDyno when its done to get the big number run!

WAfatboy said:

I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that

Delighted to hear they have solved your issues, great news.

I'm not hanging out for 190hp because the dyno we're on is conservative so the peak number won't be the same. There is no reason why I shouldn't see the same gains though because they'll using your map as a starting point given we have the same exhaust. I'll take it to BunburyDyno when its done to get the big number run!

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Your gonna love it mate, post up your impressions when your ready.

Nice result.

It backs up all austinracings power claims for our exhaust.

Wayne, pm sent.

Good work guys, and to AR as well. I love forums, 17 pages of hate then someone posts results that pretty much back what AR had claimed and..........crickets.

For those who have demanded to know why AR thinks their exhaust will out perform the factory and Termi systems I am going to share Rich's secret to the exhaust, this may shock and amaze you... slightly larger piping, a better merge collector, no baffled section, no perforated piping, larger radii on the bends. I don't know why there is speculation as to this making more power...

Colorado S14 said:

Good work guys, and to AR as well. I love forums, 17 pages of hate then someone posts results that pretty much back what AR had claimed and..........crickets.

For those who have demanded to know why AR thinks their exhaust will out perform the factory and Termi systems I am going to share Rich's secret to the exhaust, this may shock and amaze you... slightly larger piping, a better merge collector, no baffled section, no perforated piping, larger radii on the bends. I don't know why there is speculation as to this making more power...

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I can only hope your first 12 posts were this valuable.

ttkarp said:

I can only hope your first 12 posts were this valuable.

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Lol...

Nothing wrong with a bit of snarkyness. Besides that is the reality of why their exhaust will outperform, so was not totally devoid of information.

Colorado S14 said:

Nothing wrong with a bit of snarkyness. Besides that really is why their exhaust will outperform.

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Snark away then. Just be cautious of labeling legitimate questions/concerns hate.