Here is my opinion - I want guys like Rich and Tuneboy, and others in here. I would prefer more engineers, developers, etc in the forum. So I really don't understand why a few idiots are trying to drive them out. No matter if you want the exhaust (or anything else) from him/them - the more people who know deeply about a product, the better. You guys are taking him to task because certain performance characteristics haven't been met. I don't see anyone taking Ducati to task because they haven't hit the 195hp DIN or SAE that Ducati claim or that sometimes Termi slips outperform the full either. . .
But thats not the point. The goal is to have more knowledge on here. And whether that knowledge is from an engineer at Ducati, a product developer at Austin, or even a technician at Honda - it doesn't matter. You guys treat people selling farkles who know nothing about the engineering underneath and yet give someone who is trying to do the right thing and provide information this much grief ?
Look the reality with most exhausts is that you might gain some performance from a decent tune. The jumps aren't going to be huge and there are huge variances between bikes, countries, dyno's, etc. The termi's aren't a bad exhaust for a reason - and any improvements are going to be incremental. We all pretty much know this. While I understand that some may be disappointed in whatever those results might be, the reality is that you really wanted those gains, but probably also fully knew that it probably wasn't going to be that large. If you want to believe marketing, you can drop an air filter in and get 7hp gain just like that.. . . c'mon.
Disclaimer: I have zero interest in Rich's exhaust - before or after these results. I do have an interest in having him and his knowledge stay in this forum as he's contributed a helluva lot more in content than quite a few others here who have no real business here (not interested in buying the exhaust and not contributing any sort of content either). Now, thats not saying anyone is not entitled to their opinion either, but whats been posted here isn't about opinions. I'd take knowledge over brainless idiocy any day.
But thats not the point. The goal is to have more knowledge on here. And whether that knowledge is from an engineer at Ducati, a product developer at Austin, or even a technician at Honda - it doesn't matter. You guys treat people selling farkles who know nothing about the engineering underneath and yet give someone who is trying to do the right thing and provide information this much grief ?
Look the reality with most exhausts is that you might gain some performance from a decent tune. The jumps aren't going to be huge and there are huge variances between bikes, countries, dyno's, etc. The termi's aren't a bad exhaust for a reason - and any improvements are going to be incremental. We all pretty much know this. While I understand that some may be disappointed in whatever those results might be, the reality is that you really wanted those gains, but probably also fully knew that it probably wasn't going to be that large. If you want to believe marketing, you can drop an air filter in and get 7hp gain just like that.. . . c'mon.
Disclaimer: I have zero interest in Rich's exhaust - before or after these results. I do have an interest in having him and his knowledge stay in this forum as he's contributed a helluva lot more in content than quite a few others here who have no real business here (not interested in buying the exhaust and not contributing any sort of content either). Now, thats not saying anyone is not entitled to their opinion either, but whats been posted here isn't about opinions. I'd take knowledge over brainless idiocy any day.