Austin Racing Inconel Install - Part II

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transdesigner said:
Back in my gixxer forum days, we had a few members have carbon fiber discoloration on some Akras, but that was the extent any "failures" I ever heard of, and that forum was much larger.
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Yup...same thing happened on my CBR1000RR. Faded a bit, but structurally it was perfect.
 
ttkarp said:
I would bet there are failures of various kinds for any brand if sold in mass quantities. Bugsy said only 100 or so AR pipes have been sold for the 1199. Hardly a major manufacturer in the big picture. I would look to the major racing organizations to see what is being used. Motogp, WSB, even here in the AMA...Akra has a HUGE presence. AR, not so much.
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Rich had said he sold the first 50 when he started a new group buy he got pissed and canceled, so I seriously doubt anywhere near 100 have sold - or ever will if they read this forum :)
 
Burnsy said:
Was contracted to use Akrapovich and the same with Arrow, both headers failed with regular consistency.
AR did not fail us.
You lot know nothing about product reliability when used in anger, that is very clear.

Splitlath ???

Stw, still waiting for you to back up your ........ :rolleyes:
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I don't know about product reliability?? Quite an assumption when you don't even know who you are talking to. I'm one of the engineers that designs powertrains like this... I currently manage a transmission design department for a company that designs engines and full powertrains for almost all the big manufactureres like GM, FORD, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes, etc and their race teams, as well as F1, Indy, rally teams etc. I used to literally be the guy that would design parts to go into race bikes. Personally been the lead engineer on entire racing transmission projects. I interact with the engine design group quite frequently too, although no, I'm not an exhaust expert, but I'm assuming you don't have a phd in thermal dynamics, mechanics of materials, or flow simulation either? I can go on, but to say I "clearly" know nothing about product reliability is absurd to say the least. Just because you ride something means nothing about whether if you know what it takes to design it. What I state is generally fact not opinion. Everyone has failures at some point, akra, AR, Ducati, Ferrari, Termi, Toyota, etc. Just don't try to act like AR is some perfect gift from the heavens. Again, calling out members of this forum just pushes much of this Ducati community further away from ever buying an AR... So I'm not sure what the end goal is here... Draw more attention to threads like this that push more potential customers away?
 
Burnsy said:
Was contracted to use Akrapovich and the same with Arrow, both headers failed with regular consistency.
austin did not fail us.
You lot know nothing about product reliability when used in anger, that is very clear.

Splitlath ???

Stw, still waiting for you to back up your ........ :rolleyes:
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As if you didn't know, here is the Splitlath Motorsports post that was involved in the argument that got Rich banned:

IF I'd have had an axe to grind with or about Rich, I'd have said so....but my post was based purely on the facts. I myself removed a number of cans from the Splitlath bikes which had failed, so I not only know that we DID have them fail, but also DYNO'd the bikes at various BSB rounds, and saw that CONSISTANTLY, in back to back tests on the same dyno within minutes of each other, the Akrapovic pipes produced MORE power and LESS noise ( "Austinracing exhausts outperform the Akra system's and we have not had 1 failure world wide" ) making this statement completely untrue...sorry Rich, thats not aimed personally, its just the facts of the matter...so how on EARTH you can claim your exhausts outperform Akra's, when you yourself, KNOWING we were using Akra's, INSISTED we put Austin Racing stickers on them, I just dont know. What I CAN say, is that in the end, Hudson Kennaugh INSISTED they were removed and Akrapovic systems used instead . Best you get off your soapbox."
 
Trauma said:
As if you didn't know, here is the Splitlath Motorsports post that was involved in the argument that got Rich banned:

IF I'd have had an axe to grind with or about Rich, I'd have said so....but my post was based purely on the facts. I myself removed a number of cans from the Splitlath bikes which had failed, so I not only know that we DID have them fail, but also DYNO'd the bikes at various BSB rounds, and saw that CONSISTANTLY, in back to back tests on the same dyno within minutes of each other, the Akrapovic pipes produced MORE power and LESS noise ( "Austinracing exhausts outperform the Akra system's and we have not had 1 failure world wide" ) making this statement completely untrue...sorry Rich, thats not aimed personally, its just the facts of the matter...so how on EARTH you can claim your exhausts outperform Akra's, when you yourself, KNOWING we were using Akra's, INSISTED we put Austin Racing stickers on them, I just dont know. What I CAN say, is that in the end, Hudson Kennaugh INSISTED they were removed and Akrapovic systems used instead . Best you get off your soapbox."
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I'm pretty sure I linked to that too... Does this guy just ignore the facts? Troll? :confused:
 
transdesigner said:
Stw, please repost the link that Gavin D, Trauma, and I already posted so it can be "real" lol
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Lol... I am minded of the Velveteen rabbit.... If I love the failures of AR long enough they will become real... Geesh.. Bugsy... Just read the many links that have been posted with regards to the whole AR nonsense on other forums..throw in Wafs failure and tell me AR has never failed.... This is the type of nonsense that Trans so succinctly points out actually does AR a huge disservice... Its a Flat Earth mentality that will simply make people shake their heads and walk away...
 
Wow..This was your 21st post... awesome content you have added to our forum..Thank you Bugsy...
 
He is already gone - he tells lies about AR just as Rich used to, slams everyone, and leaves. At least Rich learned not to hang around, but his english is getting worse! :)
 
I must apologize my earlier posts on this thread, it seems I was wrong criticizing some of the people commenting about the AR system. Seeing the last comments in support of the AR, whoever is doing that now, changed my mind.
 
Jariva said:
I must apologize my earlier posts on this thread, it seems I was wrong criticizing some of the people commenting about the AR system. Seeing the last comments in support of the AR, whoever is doing that now, changed my mind.
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Like I said... He is being successful at pushing away potential customers. After the initial charts showing a hp gain that didn't agree with the initial claim, I was still considering this system based on looks and sound and the gain it did provide. Now I don't care if this system adds 35hp, I'm not giving a company represented like this my money.
 
Its a shame... Because if it had all been approached by AR in a positive.. none hyped .. non attacking adult manner I really think the pipe could've provided some people with just what they were looking for... Would make a great case study in Marketing (how not too)
 

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