Austin Racing Inconel Install - Part II

Trauma · Jun 7, 2013

transdesigner said:
Like I said... He is being successful at pushing away potential customers. After the initial charts showing a hp gain that didn't agree with the initial claim, I was still considering this system based on looks and sound and the gain it did provide. Now I don't care if this system adds 35hp, I'm not giving a company represented like this my money.

I have a threshold, 40hp, I'm in.

WAfatboy · Jun 7, 2013

Jariva said:
I must apologize my earlier posts on this thread, it seems I was wrong criticizing some of the people commenting about the AR system. Seeing the last comments in support of the AR, whoever is doing that now, changed my mind.

I'm sorry you have even been put in a position where you feel you need to apologise. All genuine members get a free pass...I think we've all said stuff that we later question

My replacement pipe is being shipped shortly, and the much anticipated heat shield will be coming with it. Again in the interest of balance its worth noting that AR have been straightforward to deal with and are being responsive to my questions. I feel Part III coming on.....

2013RedSabs · Jun 7, 2013

transdesigner said:
Like I said... He is being successful at pushing away potential customers. After the initial charts showing a hp gain that didn't agree with the initial claim, I was still considering this system based on looks and sound and the gain it did provide. Now I don't care if this system adds 35hp, I'm not giving a company represented like this my money.

I am completely blown away at how poorly AR have represented themselves, forget about their product. If this is their idea of customer support, their business model is doomed to fail or forever under achieve.

Rich would do well to hire a customer relations person to handle technical questions with full access to factual materials that can be posted to support their claims. Many opportunities to walk the high road have been wasted with name calling, threats and excuses.

Having a product to sell places the onus on the seller to demonstrate their product to the satisfaction of the buyer, or they will walk. When I purchase a premium product I EXPECT premium service, not a premium BAD ATTITUDE. Attempts to marginalize our members experiences and knowledge because they do not parallel the vendors shows how out of touch he is with his customer base or with alternative opinions.

The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over, and then expecting different results. I think the pattern has become crystal clear, if not a little disturbing.

Brad · Jun 8, 2013

WAfatboy said:
I'm sorry you have even been put in a position where you feel you need to apologise. All genuine members get a free pass...I think we've all said stuff that we later question

My replacement pipe is being shipped shortly, and the much anticipated heat shield will be coming with it. Again in the interest of balance its worth noting that AR have been straightforward to deal with and are being responsive to my questions. I feel Part III coming on.....

Please no.
Not a part 3.
I don't think i could handle another round.

Cheers

Burnsy · Jun 9, 2013

Stw as you are not putting forward anything to substantiate what you said about an austin part failing this should clarify it for you.
With splitlath they tested new product on the bike of a South African rider, that rider had a real .... of a mechanic also South African. I recal a new type of carbon outlet cone tested on his bike, as I remember it took 2 or 3 cones to get the thing to stand up to the gas temperature. The mechanic threw his toys out the pram and went off bad mouthing austin across a few forums. It was sour grapes at the time after they had both been booted from the team. That was the 1 and only time and that was on a new untested part.

ttkarp · Jun 9, 2013

Burnsy said:
Stw as you are not putting forward anything to substantiate what you said about an austin part failing this should clarify it for you.
With splitlath they tested new product on the bike of a South African rider, that rider had a real .... of a mechanic also South African. I recal a new type of carbon outlet cone tested on his bike, as I remember it took 2 or 3 cones to get the thing to stand up to the gas temperature. The mechanic threw his toys out the pram and went off bad mouthing austin across a few forums. It was sour grapes at the time after they had both been booted from the team. That was the 1 and only time and that was on a new untested part.

Lol. It was the MECHANICS fault! That's a new one Rich....uh...I mean bugsy.

Trauma · Jun 9, 2013

Rich failed under his Burns persona, now he is back using his original handle. Great.

ttkarp · Jun 9, 2013

Burnsy said:
Stw as you are not putting forward anything to substantiate what you said about an austin part failing this should clarify it for you.
With splitlath they tested new product on the bike of a South African rider, that rider had a real .... of a mechanic also South African. I recal a new type of carbon outlet cone tested on his bike, as I remember it took 2 or 3 cones to get the thing to stand up to the gas temperature. The mechanic threw his toys out the pram and went off bad mouthing austin across a few forums. It was sour grapes at the time after they had both been booted from the team. That was the 1 and only time and that was on a new untested part.

Other than the entire focus of the post, yeah, I guess you didn't mention the mechanic

Does the childish name calling make you feel better about pretending to be a former racer who isn't connected to AR?

Trauma · Jun 9, 2013

ttkarp said:
Other than the entire focus of the post, yeah, I guess you didn't mention the mechanic

Does the childish name calling make you feel better about pretending to be a former racer who isn't connected to AR?

RichBurns obviously had a detailed discussion with himself to "recall" these details, which are probably completely fabricated.

ttkarp · Jun 9, 2013

Trauma said:
RichBurns obviously had a detailed discussion with himself to "recall" these details, which are probably completely fabricated.

We should all make alter-ego profiles like that to spice up the conversation

WAfatboy · Jun 20, 2013

Bikes back tomorrow....you know what that means

Burnsy · Jun 21, 2013

Tut tut I think not.... Bad losers off you hop......

Trauma · Jun 21, 2013

gnance said:
yeah any lower and you might be down there with trauma, vast, frosty, and stw.....lol

I think that's the lowest you can go

I continue to be first guys, you need to ramp up a bit if you want to catch me!

VAST · Jun 21, 2013

Thank us now or thank us later, but you're gonna thank us.

Don't believe me? Go buy the ar system. Put your $ where your mouth is. Then come cry to us, after Rich tells you off when his .... fails on you.

hey gnance i told where to get the water -- why don't you go and start that AR blog and you won't have to deal with reality, truth and other such inconveniences.

gnance said:
yeah any lower and you might be down there with trauma, vast, frosty, and stw.....lol

i think that's the lowest you can go

VAST · Jun 21, 2013

i'm closing in son!

Trauma said:
I continue to be first guys, you need to ramp up a bit if you want to catch me!

transdesigner · Jun 21, 2013

gnance said:
yeah any lower and you might be down there with trauma, vast, frosty, and stw.....lol

I think that's the lowest you can go

I don't understand why you defend someone that comes here and lies and calls anyone that doesn't like his product "losers", disrespects his own customer... but throw all that out the window... Rich's most recent handling of the situation have made new critics of him such as myself, Frosty, Northbank etc, that have ensured that even if the original critics stop, others will carry the torch of spreading the truth about AR's product and its owner. As was stated, you are posting a large number of posts asking these people to stop and it's just clearly never going to happen and getting to the point of trolling them (and myself) on now. I'm not posing this as a "who won" post, but rather just saying it seems pretty obviously that things are not going to change

gnance · Jun 21, 2013

transdesigner said:
I don't understand why you defend someone that comes here and lies and calls anyone that doesn't like his product "losers", disrespects his own customer... but throw all that out the window... Rich's most recent handling of the situation have made new critics of him such as myself, Frosty, Northbank etc, that have ensured that even if the original critics stop, others will carry the torch of spreading the truth about AR's product and its owner. As was stated, you are posting a large number of posts asking these people to stop and it's just clearly never going to happen and getting to the point of trolling them (and myself) on now. I'm not posing this as a "who won" post, but rather just saying it seems pretty obviously that things are not going to change

I'm just giving it back is all. ...... annoying isn't it??

I'll stop when you guys stop. Problem is I know you can't.

transdesigner · Jun 21, 2013

gnance said:
I'm just giving it back is all. ...... annoying isn't it??

I know, but unless you have a vested interest in the success of AR, I honestly just don't understand why you're defending them after what they've said. And why waste your own time doing so? I didn't jump on the AR "haters" bandwagon until reading thru all the orgininal threads and I guess i personally drew my own conclusions that are different from yours after reading them.

Burnsy · Jun 21, 2013

Deary deary deary.....such bad looosers

Trauma · Jun 21, 2013

gnance said:
I'm just giving it back is all. ...... annoying isn't it??

I'll stop when you guys stop. Problem is I know you can't.

I will delete my posts if you delete yours, unless you truely want to keep filling up the forum, which is obviously fine withh us, not the least bit annoying.

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