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Did a bit of googling.... gearing change seems to be an issue only for the 'SC77' fireblades Rick. SC82s seem to tolerate up to a -1 front and +2 rear? If you want to deviate farther from that (-1 front +2 rear is a pretty wide range that should fit most scenarios IMO), it seems you need to reflash. Not seeing anywhere that you need a different wiring harness though.

OK yes that's annoying. But is it really that big of a deal though? Plenty of similar ........ you have to put up with on a Ducati. A $30k bike with a garbage quickshifter is just as much of a crime as a gearing change needing an ECU flash. Besides, a reflash is a necessity / given for any street bike and something we all do anyway, so what's the big deal?

IF the ecu is cracked. If not… kit ecu might be the only option.
 
D'you know how much it costs to change the gearing on a Fireblade....
Do you know how long it takes to make a gearbox ratio change on a ZX10R? About 20 min and there are six different ratio options in the Kawasaki kit package. How long does a gearbox ratio change on a V4 take?
 

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Do you know how long it takes to make a gearbox ratio change on a ZX10R? About 20 min and there are six different ratio options in the Kawasaki kit package. How long does a gearbox ratio change on a V4 take?

Cassette style gearbox was great on the ZX10R. I never changed a single ratio :'D

I'm unlikely to on the V4, I don't even know if you have to split the cases. But, I do know I can do anything I like with the sprockets, in minutes, without throwing out my ECU.

tbf, I do have the Sitta quick change sprocket carrier, which did cost me a few quid, but is an absolute doddle to use.

Whilst the rest of the eccentric hub is a setup nightmare when you do swap sprockets.
 
I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about Hondas, never owned one so take this for what it's worth (not much). Just being a keyboard hero, but ECU is cracked and plenty of tunes seem to be available.

https://mcuinnovations.com/software/ecuworkbench/tunes/?model=honda-sc82
https://brentuningmoto.com/product/2021-cbr1000rr-r-sp-stage-1/

You’re good buddy. I don’t know anything about them either. :)

Prior to release of the current gen, widespread speculation had it slotted as a v4. I was interested. As soon as specs were available and it was revealed to be an i4, I lost interest. If the next gen is a v4, i might re-engage.
 
Cassette style gearbox was great on the ZX10R. I never changed a single ratio :'D

I'm unlikely to on the V4, I don't even know if you have to split the cases. But, I do know I can do anything I like with the sprockets, in minutes, without throwing out my ECU.

tbf, I do have the Sitta quick change sprocket carrier, which did cost me a few quid, but is an absolute doddle to use.

Whilst the rest of the eccentric hub is a setup nightmare when you do swap sprockets.
on the Duc you have to split the case to do just about anything. Great styling, great innovative engineering, horrible support engineering. Ducati is continuing their quest for no user serviceability. These bikes are a maintenance nightmare for the service center’s and for the do it yourself guys, worse and that’s before you layer the painful ass raping at the parts counter. Not a bike for the squeamish. Sitta QC great setup.
 
Cassette style gearbox was great on the ZX10R. I never changed a single ratio :'D

I'm unlikely to on the V4, I don't even know if you have to split the cases. But, I do know I can do anything I like with the sprockets, in minutes, without throwing out my ECU.

Really good point, so what if it has a cassette gearbox or whatever MotoGP style feature if its not used by 99.9% of the buyers. As for splitting cases, yep thats pretty normal for significant engine work and if you are blowing up gearboxes or need to change ratios regularly you probably have your team mechanic doing it!
 
Winter project:

Not much left to do on this bike, RaceSeats.it custom seat on the way, suspension done for now with FKR 108 front fork inserts custom valved and spring. Ohlins TTX GP rear shock custom valved with a 130 spring.

The rest is just Carbon Fiber and Titanium and a new livery.

Motoholders rear subframe though I think I’m going to order the Pierobon rear subframe.

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Dear Steven, After careful review of your posts I'm afraid your situation means you need to get help
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to buy at least 3 more bikes!!🤣 You gotta stop spending all your bike money on the Duck there are other bikes out there begging to come home with you!
 
Dear Steven, After careful review of your posts I'm afraid your situation means you need to get help
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to buy at least 3 more bikes!!🤣 You gotta stop spending all your bike money on the Duck there are other bikes out there begging to come home with you!

Agreed, 😂😂😂 looking at getting into racing a bit, and this bike doesn’t fit any class lol

An HP4 Race might be in my near future, or Alpha in Germany makes customized to you race bikes out of the BMW 10000 rr

I also have my name on the list for a 2023 Ducati V4R for a May delivery that I might set up for a WERA class.
 
Agreed, 😂😂😂 looking at getting into racing a bit, and this bike doesn’t fit any class lol

An HP4 Race might be in my near future, or Alpha in Germany makes customized to you race bikes out of the BMW 10000 rr

I also have my name on the list for a 2023 Ducati V4R for a May delivery that I might set up for a WERA class.

2015 R1 onwards is your friend Steven!
 
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2015+ is the current generation, which is kind of my gripe. The engine is the same platform from 2009. Seems dated. Probably a better value proposition than Ducati's tick tock yearly cycle. For maybe $6,500 w/o VAT you can have a complete spare engine.

https://www.tenkateracingproducts.c...lete-spare-engine-yzf-r1-20-b3l100e000rc.html
I always wanted to try an Aprilia so I'll live vicariously through Craig lol.

I'll leave this here...

https://www.af1racing.com/

Yep - 2015 is current gen, but reportedly there has been ongoing refinement. They refer to “silver” (2015/16) and “black” motors (17 on iirc), and seem to group the motors into 3 groups - 15/16, 17-19, and 20+. Other refinements are superficial I think - facelift bodywork, etc…

What about the AF1 catalog?
 
It's all the Aprilia racing stuff. I suppose they are to Aprilia what Alpha is to BMW. It annoys me to no end that Ducati hides all the Corse stuff while BMW, Aprilia and Yamaha have it all out there. It's almost like they want to sell parts.
 
It's all the Aprilia racing stuff. I suppose they are to Aprilia what Alpha is to BMW. It annoys me to no end that Ducati hides all the Corse stuff while BMW, Aprilia and Yamaha have it all out there. It's almost like they want to sell parts.

Agree 100% - ridiculous.

I’m here in central Texas an hour north of af1 in Austin - makes the proposition of buying an ape more appealing.
 
Where I am the Aprilia dealer network is non-existent. Now that I have the trailer that's less of a concern but still my biggest gripe with Aprilia. If I knew I was going to be as into track riding as I am, I would have went Yamaha R1. Everything is so much more affordable. I love the Panigale, don't get me wrong, but the only reason I have some of the stuff I do on it is that I caught a good price or a sale. $5k, now $7.5k for an exhaust, $1k for rearsets...now that I have the Panigale pretty well sorted, I don't think it makes sense to jump to another bike since I'd never recoup what I put into it.
 

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