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bp_SFV4 said:
15K is the stock 6th gear limit.

Maybe there's issue if you were at or near 15K in a lower gear at an angle then upright the bike you'd physically cause too much on an increase in RPM outside of the control of the limiter. The diameter of the tire is lower at increased lean angles, which effects gearing...maybe more to the point RPM, in a convoluted way.
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I thought rev limit was 14k gear 1-5 and 14.5k in 6th? Am I incorrect?
 
15k in 6th. I went back and double checked.

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I road a brand new Fireblade yesterday….very cool bike. Low to the ground, Turns really well, much easier bike to ride than the V4 until you hit about 9000 RPM

The power kicks in like a freight train at about there, an astonishing surge of power that’s at least as fast as the Ducati.
 
craig bush said:
I think @Jolly Roger V4 was referring to the Pv4 R.

Any other impressions of CBR vs Panigale?
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It’s a smaller bike, much smaller, low center of gravity, turns REALLY well, handles really well, feels really stable at speeds. It’s like w Dr Jeckle and mr. Hyde bike, it’s so small that it feels like a 600 not a liter bike, and below 8k RPM power feels like a liter bike, then when you hit 8k RPM exhaust valves open, it gets loud and very very fast, like you were shot out of a slingshot fast.

The gas tank feels great for laying down on but it’s too slanted for braking, you tend to slide right up onto the tank, and it desperately needs stomp grips everywhere to lean off of it, I was sliding all over whereas on the V4 even without friction pads I can lean off the bike….on the Fireblade it feels dangerous not having grip pads, but that’s easily fixable…aftermarket reset sets are a must too, the pegs are WAY to high. I also think they could maybe smooth the transition of power, it’s not progressive, up to 7k rpm you are riding a mild 600cc bike then you hit 8k rpm and are just trying to hold on for dear life hahaha.

Those are the only negatives…I REALLY liked the bike, so much that other than some grip pads, rear sets, and MAYBE a corsa corta brake MC I’m not sure I’d do any mods to it.

I’d need to ride it more and ride it at the track to see if I like it more than my bike, but it’s in the conversation.

It’s like this tiny little epic bike.
 
Oh, and the quick shifter is so fricking good that when you get back on the Pani you are pissed the .... off that for all the money these bikes cost Ducati can’t get even close to how nice the Fireblades QC shifter is?
 
The best thing I can say about the Fireblade, is that I’m still thinking about it even after riding my Godzilla of a bike home.

I’ve started think of it like the Bruce Lee of bikes hahaha

Imagine your out to diner and bump into this little un-assuming Asian guy in glasses having diner….he very quietly asks you to step out side, kinda amused by the little guy you go and you start to circle each other….at 1st your like: “Okay he moves decent but I got this lil guy…..then WANG!!! you get kicked in a face 3 times so fast you never even saw him move, and now he’s just standing there all docile looking again 😂😂😂

It doesn’t feel like a liter bike, it rides and handles like a 600 that has Ducati power but even so it feels more tame. Part of the fun of the Ducati is that it doesn’t feel tame, but the Fireblade is just as fun even though it feels tamer, I honestly think it’s because of the size, it just feels really good to go that fast on a bike that small feeling.

And it’s not light, my Ducati is about 50 pounds lighter but the Fireblade felt like the lighter bike…I think it has to do with ride height and geometry….it’s a different lever or fulcrum point tipping the Fireblade in.
 
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RickD996 said:
D'you know how much it costs to change the gearing on a Fireblade....
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No clue…could be as simple as changing the sprocket teeth count to get it into a livable zone though…. I hear the aftermarket part list is very small, and worse still apparently they neutered the US versions by about 30 hp….and it’s a PITA to reflash them up to Euro Spec
 
Steven31371 said:
No clue…could be as simple as changing the sprocket teeth count to get it into a livable zone though…. I hear the aftermarket part list is very small, and worse still apparently they neutered the US versions by about 30 hp….and it’s a PITA to reflash them up to Euro Spec
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You need the kit ECU and wiring loom! £8k
If you change the gearing without it, all the electronics turn off.

You need to ride a V4R or 22 V4, if you prefer the way the Honda handles. The 4mm change to swingarm position is massive.
 
I suspect the foot pegs are high on the Honda because the whole thing is lower to the ground. If the foot pegs are too low you’d have problems in the lean.
 
At Laguna this weekend. Foggy. I don’t compete in motorcycle road racing although I am a fan obviously. There are probably a lot of factors why racers ride what they ride in their respective classes. Ducati as a brand doesn’t seem to have much representation outside top pro level racing accompanied by factory money and support.

There are zero Ducs in stock 1000 (not sure on the rules) There is one V2 in SS this weekend and it has full factory support and Josh is riding it. There is one V4 in SB this weekend and it has full factory support with an ex Motogp guy on it. Other than that the only Ducatis here are in the parking lot. To me (and again this is an uneducated, bystanders observation) it seems like it’s a lot easier and less expensive to go racing with other brands.
 
Ducati also offers no rewards for winning on their bikes. BMW and most other manufacturers pay out a couple grand if you win an event on their bikes (even when it's just regional events like CRA in Socal) but Ducati doesn't give a dime.

I don't really think it's a rideability thing, thought that might be a factor. It seems like $$$ is the main reason why Ducati isn't the bike of choice for racing on most levels. Running the V4R platform for a few years in MotoAmerica obliterated Kyle Kyle Wyman's financial situation, making him unable to secure the funds to run a BMW machine this year.
 
RickD996 said:
You need the kit ECU and wiring loom! £8k
If you change the gearing without it, all the electronics turn off.

You need to ride a V4R or 22 V4, if you prefer the way the Honda handles. The 4mm change to swingarm position is massive.
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Did a bit of googling.... gearing change seems to be an issue only for the 'SC77' fireblades Rick. SC82s seem to tolerate up to a -1 front and +2 rear? If you want to deviate farther from that (-1 front +2 rear is a pretty wide range that should fit most scenarios IMO), it seems you need to reflash. Not seeing anywhere that you need a different wiring harness though.

OK yes that's annoying. But is it really that big of a deal though? Plenty of similar ........ you have to put up with on a Ducati. A $30k bike with a garbage quickshifter is just as much of a crime as a gearing change needing an ECU flash. Besides, a reflash is a necessity / given for any street bike and something we all do anyway, so what's the big deal?
 
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