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Somebody has had wayyyyy too many lattes today gentleman...

You're getting a lot of miles on those latte jokes.

endodoc said:

Waaaaaat? Not possible. The vaccines fixed all that, must be a false positive. You know Ducati de-rates those things for insurance purposes. Horse power numbers are really around 400 so I would place the realistic redline at somewhere north of 25k. Just disable the rev limiter (fake marketing numbers) and pin it. You’ll find it. It will give a distinctive audible notification followed by an abrupt tactile experience.

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Lmao….seemed to be okay at 15k, no metal on metal grinding sounds hahaha

15K is the stock 6th gear limit.

Maybe there's issue if you were at or near 15K in a lower gear at an angle then upright the bike you'd physically cause too much on an increase in RPM outside of the control of the limiter. The diameter of the tire is lower at increased lean angles, which effects gearing...maybe more to the point RPM, in a convoluted way.

You're correct, but it's the other way around. I'm guessing you just kinda mixed the words up. If you're at redline upright and then lean the bike over, RPM will try to increase and you can over rev the motor. That's how a lot of guys blow motors during the IOM TT.

You're right. You can hear engines increasing revs and the bike is leaned over from upright.

It makes sense when you think of a much bigger gear driving a smaller gear vs a slightly bigger gear driving a smaller gear. Bigger gear being the diameter of the tire at the contact point to the front sprocket.

With the flicking of the bike you are forcing those RPM changes since the absolute speed wouldn't yet be effected.

bp_SFV4 said:

You're right. You can hear engines increasing revs and the bike is leaned over from upright.

It makes sense when you think of a much bigger gear driving a smaller gear vs a slightly bigger gear driving a smaller gear. Bigger gear being the diameter of the tire at the contact point to the front sprocket.

With the flicking of the bike you are forcing those RPM changes since the absolute speed wouldn't yet be effected.

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Even easier than that - the outer diameter of the tire is smaller, so it must spin faster on the side of the tire at a given speed, and since the tire and motor are connected, engine rpm must increase as well.

I wouldn’t fancy banging up against a hard rev limiter mid corner with the throttle pegged while at maximum lean lol

bp_SFV4 said:

You're getting a lot of miles on those latte jokes.

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Yes, more miles than an Aprilia engine before it sucks a valve.

Steven31371 said:

I wouldn’t fancy banging up against a hard rev limiter mid corner with the throttle pegged while at maximum lean lol

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That would make for a serious butt pucker and possibly a change of the leathers and the diaper!

bp_SFV4 said:

15K is the stock 6th gear limit.

Maybe there's issue if you were at or near 15K in a lower gear at an angle then upright the bike you'd physically cause too much on an increase in RPM outside of the control of the limiter. The diameter of the tire is lower at increased lean angles, which effects gearing...maybe more to the point RPM, in a convoluted way.

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I thought rev limit was 14k gear 1-5 and 14.5k in 6th? Am I incorrect?

15k in 6th. I went back and double checked.

I stand corrected and impressed with Ducati

I road a brand new Fireblade yesterday….very cool bike. Low to the ground, Turns really well, much easier bike to ride than the V4 until you hit about 9000 RPM

The power kicks in like a freight train at about there, an astonishing surge of power that’s at least as fast as the Ducati.

Have you ridden a R with the full Akra? Nothing below 10K then full bonjour mode

Jolly Roger V4 said:

Have you ridden a R with the full Akra? Nothing below 10K then full bonjour mode

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Yeah, was the RR Rrrrrrrrrr SP version

Jolly Roger V4 said:

Have you ridden a R with the full Akra? Nothing below 10K then full bonjour mode

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Steven31371 said:

Yeah, was the RR Rrrrrrrrrr SP version

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I think @Jolly Roger V4 was referring to the Pv4 R.

Any other impressions of CBR vs Panigale?

craig bush said:

I think @Jolly Roger V4 was referring to the Pv4 R.

Any other impressions of CBR vs Panigale?

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It’s a smaller bike, much smaller, low center of gravity, turns REALLY well, handles really well, feels really stable at speeds. It’s like w Dr Jeckle and mr. Hyde bike, it’s so small that it feels like a 600 not a liter bike, and below 8k RPM power feels like a liter bike, then when you hit 8k RPM exhaust valves open, it gets loud and very very fast, like you were shot out of a slingshot fast.

The gas tank feels great for laying down on but it’s too slanted for braking, you tend to slide right up onto the tank, and it desperately needs stomp grips everywhere to lean off of it, I was sliding all over whereas on the V4 even without friction pads I can lean off the bike….on the Fireblade it feels dangerous not having grip pads, but that’s easily fixable…aftermarket reset sets are a must too, the pegs are WAY to high. I also think they could maybe smooth the transition of power, it’s not progressive, up to 7k rpm you are riding a mild 600cc bike then you hit 8k rpm and are just trying to hold on for dear life hahaha.

Those are the only negatives…I REALLY liked the bike, so much that other than some grip pads, rear sets, and MAYBE a corsa corta brake MC I’m not sure I’d do any mods to it.

I’d need to ride it more and ride it at the track to see if I like it more than my bike, but it’s in the conversation.

It’s like this tiny little epic bike.

Oh, and the quick shifter is so fricking good that when you get back on the Pani you are pissed the .... off that for all the money these bikes cost Ducati can’t get even close to how nice the Fireblades QC shifter is?

Steven31371 said:

Oh, and the quick shifter is so fricking good that when you get back on the Pani you are pissed the .... off that for all the money these bikes cost Ducati can’t get even close to how nice the Fireblades QC shifter is?

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Fk’g Ducati.