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andyb said:
don't you also need the Data logging telemetry stuff too for things like brake pressure?
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The track kit includes the Solo 2 DL and brake pressure data is available using the V4 cable (you need to select the kit that’s specific to the model - the one I linked to).

If you look at the details of the specific cable for this kit you can see what data is available:

https://www.aimshop.com/products/ducati-panigale-v4-v2-aim-solo-2-dl-plug-play-cable
The technical sheet confirms this:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...DucatiPanigale-V4_V2_104_eng.pdf?v=1620661479
Some further information in a review (from 2014) confirming that it’s the ABS models that can provide this data:

https://ducatiforum.com/t/my-review-of-the-solo-dl-laptimer-datalogger.17948/
 
I just saw this after I posted in your DA thread - def down for the AIM setup, but I cannot do the AIM camera setup - too exp and bulky. I Had multiple GoPro issues that I was whinging about in my thread but I returned the 11s and got 12s and had no issues but I only used them a couple times
 
KarlKani said:
I just saw this after I posted in your DA thread - def down for the AIM setup, but I cannot do the AIM camera setup - too exp and bulky. I Had multiple GoPro issues that I was whinging about in my thread but I returned the 11s and got 12s and had no issues but I only used them a couple times
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GoPro has gone to ...., there’s (of all things) a Chinese camera maker called DJU that’s making the best action camera now, GoPro doesn’t like to be vibrated or hot, which makes them nearly useless on a bike at the track, my DJI works perfectly every single time I use it.
 
CSV4 said:
i guess thats what 1,000 hours of experience at a track looks like.
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Actually I don’t think he’s spent a lot of time at that particular track, but certainly 1000’s of hours on track. He was saying that when you ride enough tracks long enough that even though each track is configured differently each corner looks like a corner you’ve seen before and learned somewhere else, so it gets easy to learn any new track because you know how to take a particular type of corner and line already.
 
Steven31371 said:


I got that from RoadracerX, one of his faster laps on our coaching day. That data helped me a lot, watching where and how hard he was getting on throttle etc
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In summary… have good lines, brake later, and get on the throttle sooner will get you better lap times 😂😂😂

Yeah, it’s surprising how hard you can get on the throttle with these bikes. The electronics will sort it all out. The key is the timing of getting on the throttle. Too soon like when your mid corner causes lots of problems (I know from experience). I’ve found the V4 is easier to ride by squaring corners rather than smooth arcs. Leave the apex to as late as possible so you’re leaned over for less time. Then just grab as much throttle as you’re comfortable with. Coming from riding 600s where corner speed is the priority is a difficult habit to break.
 
The biggest surprise for me watching RoadracerX’s data is how early he’s very hard on the throttle. At Big Willow there are several turns where you are pretty hard on the throttle before you even get to the apex.

His roll speed mid corner at that track isn’t much faster than mine, but on a less powerful bike he’s 15 to 20 mph faster on earlier parts of the straights than me.

There are several reasons for that with my personal riding, one of which simply trusting the bike and getting on the throttle earlier and harder. I was also moving my eyes around too much creating a much higher and scarier sense of speed than keeping my eyes down track. I am also carrying less lean angle at the apex, which means I would run wider coming onto the straight at less speed.

So for me it’s about more lean angle at the apex, keeping my eyes steady and down track, and trusting the bike grip more.

SuperD the point and shoot style is much slower for me than just leaning the bike and following a smoother line…smooth is fast. My fastest laps feel like my slowest laps in some ways. None of the fastest guys I know take that pivot and shoot line. I read about and road that style for a lot of track days, and every fast guy that followed me to give me tips was like: “what the hell are you doing!”
 
Have you ridden a 600? I have. I’d be skeptical of the person who told you that the V4 rides like a 600. From my experience, my old 675 and this V4 require different styles of riding. Also the 2022+ ride different from the 20-21 which are different than the 18-19 (granted I haven’t ridden an 18 and only have a quick street ride on a 21).
 
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Steven31371 said:
The biggest surprise for me watching RoadracerX’s data is how early he’s very hard on the throttle. At Big Willow there are several turns where you are pretty hard on the throttle before you even get to the apex.

His roll speed mid corner at that track isn’t much faster than mine, but on a less powerful bike he’s 15 to 20 mph faster on earlier parts of the straights than me.

There are several reasons for that with my personal riding, one of which simply trusting the bike and getting on the throttle earlier and harder. I was also moving my eyes around too much creating a much higher and scarier sense of speed than keeping my eyes down track. I am also carrying less lean angle at the apex, which means I would run wider coming onto the straight at less speed.

So for me it’s about more lean angle at the apex, keeping my eyes steady and down track, and trusting the bike grip more.

SuperD the point and shoot style is much slower for me than just leaning the bike and following a smoother line…smooth is fast. My fastest laps feel like my slowest laps in some ways. None of the fastest guys I know take that pivot and shoot line. I read about and road that style for a lot of track days, and every fast guy that followed me to give me tips was like: “what the hell are you doing!”
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I’ve been there chasing lean angle and early throttle. It’s not if it’ll bite you but when. You get on the throttle too early carrying too much corner speed and you got yourself a recipe for disaster.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Who told you that? Different bikes require different ways to ride
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I have ridden a 600. My first sport bike was a CBR 600RR. The 1199 that replaced it turned and braked much better in addition to gobs more power, and the V4 is much better than the 1199 is every way.

I've heard or read that from so many different sources it's hard to attribute it on demand to one particular source. Point and shoot was the California Superbike School thing IIRC. Other programs teach, with success, different methods. I tend to look at different techniques as take what you can from everyone, apply as needed in the situation.
 
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