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Rider dependent for sure...Someone did comparison at Chuckwalla. Delta was under a second SC2 versus TD treaded tire. Not a pro rider but difference
was feel and confidence in the tire. Plenty of people on TD's killing it versus slicks. Watch chasing Tenths youtube channel. Sylvain G. ran Metzeler TD slicks
versus SC0 on his GSXR1000 and delta was 2 seconds. Said he would go with TD's for track days or long endurance race. No dropoff in performance.
Bottom line figure 2 seconds slick versus street based tire with pro rider!!

Chuckwalla is not he best track for this analysis, that delta would jump on faster tracks esp that are more stop and go
 
Chuckwalla isn't the best for anything honestly. Wasn't a pro rider anyway. Biggest takeaway for most track day riders was the feel versus absolute grip.
The TD spec tires have enough grip for 99 percent of track day riders. Slicks offer the confidence of the extra grip just in case for most.
 
Chuckwalla isn't the best for anything honestly. Wasn't a pro rider anyway. Biggest takeaway for most track day riders was the feel versus absolute grip.
The TD spec tires have enough grip for 99 percent of track day riders. Slicks offer the confidence of the extra grip just in case for most.

I’m using DOT SC3 at the moment and they seem great. I look forward to trying slicks for the reason you mentioned.
 
I’m using DOT SC3 at the moment and they seem great. I look forward to trying slicks for the reason you mentioned.

SC3 plenty good for trackdays. I see guys running SC0 and SCX to get under a certain time. Son, if you can't do it on a SC1 or SC2 you ain't there yet my friend!
 
Chuckwalla isn't the best for anything honestly. Wasn't a pro rider anyway. Biggest takeaway for most track day riders was the feel versus absolute grip.
The TD spec tires have enough grip for 99 percent of track day riders. Slicks offer the confidence of the extra grip just in case for most.

V02s are the cheapest fastest slicks out there.
 
V02s are the cheapest fastest slicks out there.

I’ve seen them raved about by certain channels but you always wonder if that’s because they are getting them for free.

I’ve been happy with Pirelli tyres so far (it came with V4 SP tyres, which were great, and I’ve gone on to SC3 DOT), which is funny as I wouldn’t go near Pirelli on a car - hated them.
 
I’ve seen them raved about by certain channels but you always wonder if that’s because they are getting them for free.

I’ve been happy with Pirelli tyres so far (it came with V4 SP tyres, which were great, and I’ve gone on to SC3 DOT), which is funny as I wouldn’t go near Pirelli on a car - hated them.

SC3 is the best you've tried so far ? oh mate, you havent lived the life yet
 
SC3 plenty good for trackdays. I see guys running SC0 and SCX to get under a certain time. Son, if you can't do it on a SC1 or SC2 you ain't there yet my friend!

I have a long way to go before tyres are the limiting factor. 🤣 In reality, I can’t imagine the DOT SC3 would ever be a limiting factor. I seem to recall the slick version being cheaper for some reason. Could be wrong.
 
I have a long way to go before tyres are the limiting factor. 🤣 In reality, I can’t imagine the DOT SC3 would ever be a limiting factor. I seem to recall the slick version being cheaper for some reason. Could be wrong.

thats a good answer, you will feel when you need a better tire.

otherwise V02s cost cheaper than SC3 and give much feel/drive.

do a day next time Rehm comes to Most, they sell them
 
So a $500 set of slicks is worth a full second over stock, but we have folks here trying to convince us that the tens of millions invested by a MotoGP team only nets another few seconds of improvement over a stock production bike.

Bunch of canyon racers. ;)

Lol, the good news is that yes modern super bikes that you and I can buy are ridiculously fast but the sad reality is that as you approach the limits of accelleration and grip with current tech every 1/1000th or a second is going to cost you a a few hundred k plus in development!
 
thats a good answer, you will feel when you need a better tire.

otherwise V02s cost cheaper than SC3 and give much feel/drive.

do a day next time Rehm comes to Most, they sell them

I’ve got my eyes open for booking Most and Brno as much as possible next year, so I’ll have a look at that.

V02s seem a little bit cheaper here - not a huge amount but I guess it adds up.
 
Actually, I’ve just realised that we are discussing this in @Steven31371 ’s thread and there’s probably been more than enough off-topic shenanigans without us spending ten pages talking about tyres… :rolleyes:🤣🫣

I’ll try to keep the topic in mind but I can’t make any promises…
 
Lol, the good news is that yes modern super bikes that you and I can buy are ridiculously fast but the sad reality is that as you approach the limits of accelleration and grip with current tech every 1/1000th or a second is going to cost you a a few hundred k plus in development!

I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell anyone who believes a $30k bike with 200hp and weighing 400lbs can lap within 5 seconds of a $1MIL bike with 300hp weighing 330lbs. .

Special pricing for ducatiforum members. ;)
 
Bling clash: plus 2 seconds 😀

Funny, I came in from the garage and basically described with annoyance how I just took part of the bike apart and found out my newest bling doesn’t fit with my older bling so I just spent 45 minutes wasting my time…”

She looked at me with a blank stare…

Remarkably she gives no ..... that my fancy clutch slave won’t work with my fancy gear shift bracket. Her priorities in life are clearly off.

Not gunna change out my clutch slave though, so if any of you are at any of these track days you can have my racetorx bracket.

Nov 3 Fri Big Willow 2WTD

Nov 11 Chuckwallah Saturday SoCal Trackdays

DEC 1 Chuckwalla 2WTD fri
 
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I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell anyone who believes a $30k bike with 200hp and weighing 400lbs can lap within 5 seconds of a $1MIL bike with 300hp weighing 330lbs. .

Special pricing for ducatiforum members. ;)

Big Big Big Brass Bollocks. Lots of CF bling and Sticky Icky too....
 
I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell anyone who believes a $30k bike with 200hp and weighing 400lbs can lap within 5 seconds of a $1MIL bike with 300hp weighing 330lbs. .

Special pricing for ducatiforum members. ;)

5 seconds X 27 laps is 2 1/4 minutes behind, Your place come with a boatshed?
 
5 seconds X 27 laps is 2 1/4 minutes behind, Your place come with a boatshed?

Exactly, that’s a lap and a half ahead, about 3.5 to 4 MILES ahead at the finish line of a race, same rider, on different bikes, that’s actually a huge amount of time and distance.
 

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