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There are significant differences though, remember the race of champions on V4S's? they had to reduce it I think from 20 to 12 laps due to heat, I think the V4S is fast over a lap but keep the pressure on at MotoGP level and you start finding weaknesses
 
They are toys for big boys. No one here is a professional racer and no one needs a Panigale, us kiddies with a few spare bucks want them and the same goes for virtually any pastime i.e its optional. I happen to really enjoy the motorcycle hobby which started nearly 50 years ago, I can ride them, do some spannering, improve them, bling 'em, look at them etc and there is so much to learn about every single aspect that I fully intend to be occupied with the hobby until I pop my clogs. Obviously riding any 200hp+ machine only a few mm of cowhide and plastic between you and multiple skin grafts requires a degree of seriousness and discipline in your work habits.

So basically… I think I found spooky. Or is this Andy?

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Disagree. That’s the same logic of dumb Americans buying guns as toys so I don’t buy it.
 
I was quoting what it said in the article… The comment said it was on a production bike, linked to an article to support this, and the article quoted Pecco saying "The bike is a V4S with V4R suspension elements, Moto2 exhaust system and brakes".

Moto 2 exhaust 🤔
 
Does undermine the integrity of the article somewhat....

Indeed, although that works both ways. It would be surprising if the practice bikes were completely standard though - you’d expect maybe brakes, pads, exhaust, tyres and suspension at least. You’d also expect the best riders in the world to be able to put in good lap times on them. Great marketing for Ducati to say that a production bike is that quick though, regardless of whether or not it’s had some perhaps minor fettling.

Just had a look at some videos from 2021 with the Ducati guys training on the V4S - certainly not using dynamic suspension as there are no wires going into the top of the forks. 🤣
 
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22 + bike......describes as a stock V4S....:rolleyes:

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Look at the rear tire. Has less psi than my latte when cold. More deformed than a pissed willy after 3 shandys. Looks like it's breaking the bead at the rim.
Must be photo shopped mates. Tires softer than a 90 year old todger after the polar bear plunge in the North Sea in January!!!
 

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