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Which one are you going for? You’ve probably already said but there’s a lot of comments to wade through…
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Evo2, I want the lowest power and best set up bike that can get my 220 pound body around the track at reasonable speeds.
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there you go talking .... again....I expect you ride around on a std bike? Wait till you can exploit that fully before you change anything on it? ...oh no.......... talking .... again?
So you have a upgraded exhaust and ducati upgraded map? Why do you need that? Unless you are lapping within 10 secs of the WSB boys... why do you need more power? Whats wrong with how the bike was set up as std by Ducati.........
Ah you must be lapping within 10secs of the WSB boys...I see why now.......ffs!!
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Damn ..... these days
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The difference is that Steven enlisted the help from a forum on decisions re his bike. Now if Paul asked the forum if his exhaust will turn him into Pecco, then your welcome to entreat
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Don’t let the facts get in the way of the BS
Next we will be changing our gearing away from std…. Why? If you are not within 10 secs of the big boys what’s the point?
Panigale barflys talking ....- tell me it isnt true
Andy we all know you have a nice bike and that when youre not drunk posting that you even go for rides, but you miss my point dear chap. Ever mock those middle managers who dress up in tassles and screamin' eagle merch as they ride their chrome tractors and play 1%ers? Well the Ducati equivalent is putting on faux race parts and pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer right? My point is that just like the Harley bro's, we do this for fun and while it may add considerable potential to mythical lap times, it almost wont any difference at all to a well setup stocker unless you have the skill to exploit it.
Most riders here are competant I'm sure, some are kick ass but they dont .... on and on..., they just do it whereas the other end of the spectrum are people who seriously think that a pipe and map is going to make them into Valentino going around a track. Ive said heaps of times, this is a fun hobby and bling away, (as we all do) add all the .... you want to the bike but FFS dont piss on the rest of us and tell us its raining!
Andy we all know you have a nice bike and that when youre not drunk posting that you even go for rides, but you miss my point dear chap. Ever mock those middle managers who dress up in tassles and screamin' eagle merch as they ride their chrome tractors and play 1%ers? Well the Ducati equivalent is putting on faux race parts and pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer right? My point is that just like the Harley bro's, we do this for fun and while it may add considerable potential to mythical lap times, it almost wont any difference at all to a well setup stocker unless you have the skill to exploit it.
Most riders here are competant I'm sure, some are kick ass but they dont .... on and on..., they just do it whereas the other end of the spectrum are people who seriously think that a pipe and map is going to make them into Valentino going around a track. Ive said heaps of times, this is a fun hobby and bling away, (as we all do) add all the .... you want to the bike but FFS dont piss on the rest of us and tell us its raining!
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Panigale barflys talking ....- tell me it isnt true
Andy we all know you have a nice bike and that when youre not drunk posting that you even go for rides, but you miss my point dear chap. Ever mock those middle managers who dress up in tassles and screamin' eagle merch as they ride their chrome tractors and play 1%ers? Well the Ducati equivalent is putting on faux race parts and pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer right? My point is that just like the Harley bro's, we do this for fun and while it may add considerable potential to mythical lap times, it almost wont any difference at all to a well setup stocker unless you have the skill to exploit it.
Most riders here are competant I'm sure, some are kick ass but they dont .... on and on..., they just do it whereas the other end of the spectrum are people who seriously think that a pipe and map is going to make them into Valentino going around a track. Ive said heaps of times, this is a fun hobby and bling away, (as we all do) add all the .... you want to the bike but FFS dont piss on the rest of us and tell us its raining!
All good and accurate points, accept that other than maybe Pink Slips I don’t see any regular posters here that actually think they will get faster based on a mod other than proper suspension setup. I’d argue that ergo’s help too, and possibly gearing if it fits a track profile better.
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I don’t think people ‘pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer’ is what’s happening. I don’t see anyone saying anything like that. Anyone not racing, which is the vast majority, are doing these things because they enjoy doing it and it’s another aspect of the hobby they find interesting and enjoy. I might have a guess that most who are racing without big bucks behind them have even less interest in these things than the rest of us - just make it cheap and fixable…
I’m not sure why some seem to get their panties in a twirl about it or why they have to keep banging on about it not making a difference to lap times - everyone knows that and, really, so what?
None of this, including my response, provides anything of value to the thread. I’d just like to see people being able to have a thread about their bike without a small minority feeling the need to take a crap in their swimming pool.
I don’t think people ‘pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer’ is what’s happening. I don’t see anyone saying anything like that. Anyone not racing, which is the vast majority, are doing these things because they enjoy doing it and it’s another aspect of the hobby they find interesting and enjoy. I might have a guess that most who are racing without big bucks behind them have even less interest in these things than the rest of us - just make it cheap and fixable…
I’m not sure why some seem to get their panties in a twirl about it or why they have to keep banging on about it not making a difference to lap times - everyone knows that and, really, so what?
None of this, including my response, provides anything of value to the thread. I’d just like to see people being able to have a thread about their bike without a small minority feeling the need to take a crap in their swimming pool.
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Nope the point being made by you is why change anything if you ain’t within 10 secs of a lap record…. Well obviously that applies to everyone else apart from er… you! And you are also the one crapping .. and your logic is what’s the point in having a pool if you ain’t no Johnny Weissmuller …
Personally, I would never use a long swingarm on these. They're already too long. Ultimately it about speed at the apex. Longer swingarm uses up more lean angle and makes the bike less flickable. I guess I miss the 55.5 inch Ducati's. It's all silly, add HP and then try to add stuff to tame the HP. Absolute wrong device to learn to go fast on IMHO.
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So basically you’re playing Barbi but with motorcycles. When you treat something like a toy when it’s a tool, you’re going to get treated like a kid.
Talking of tools…
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I don’t accept that as accurate - that given millions of dollars for R&D and the best riders in the world on payroll, the best engineers in the world can design a multi-million dollar prototype that’s only 5 seconds faster than a production bike?
Yeah, ok.
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I don’t accept that as accurate - that given millions of dollars for R&D and the best riders in the world on payroll, the best engineers in the world can design a multi-million dollar prototype that’s only 5 seconds faster than a production bike?
Yeah, ok.
It’s called marginal gains
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Five seconds is a lot and in a 20 lap race. One second faster means you finish a half a mile ahead of the other bike, five seconds faster means the same rider on two different bikes. Would lap the slower bike and a 20 lap race. These bikes aren’t Formula One cars with 50 times the contact, patch triple the power, and as much downforce as an airplane with the wind resistance of an arrow compared to say a road going Porsche or Ferrari.
lol. Tool (all puns intended).
They are toys for big boys. No one here is a professional racer and no one needs a Panigale, us kiddies with a few spare bucks want them and the same goes for virtually any pastime i.e its optional. I happen to really enjoy the motorcycle hobby which started nearly 50 years ago, I can ride them, do some spannering, improve them, bling 'em, look at them etc and there is so much to learn about every single aspect that I fully intend to be occupied with the hobby until I pop my clogs. Obviously riding any 200hp+ machine only a few mm of cowhide and plastic between you and multiple skin grafts requires a degree of seriousness and discipline in your work habits.
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