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@Paul G

I don’t think people ‘pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer’ is what’s happening. I don’t see anyone saying anything like that. Anyone not racing, which is the vast majority, are doing these things because they enjoy doing it and it’s another aspect of the hobby they find interesting and enjoy. I might have a guess that most who are racing without big bucks behind them have even less interest in these things than the rest of us - just make it cheap and fixable…

I’m not sure why some seem to get their panties in a twirl about it or why they have to keep banging on about it not making a difference to lap times - everyone knows that and, really, so what?

None of this, including my response, provides anything of value to the thread. I’d just like to see people being able to have a thread about their bike without a small minority feeling the need to take a crap in their swimming pool.
 
Steven31371 said:
All good and accurate points, accept that other than maybe Pink Slips I don’t see any regular posters here that actually think they will get faster based on a mod other than proper suspension setup. I’d argue that ergo’s help too, and possibly gearing if it fits a track profile better.
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Personally, I would never use a long swingarm on these. They're already too long. Ultimately it about speed at the apex. Longer swingarm uses up more lean angle and makes the bike less flickable. I guess I miss the 55.5 inch Ducati's. It's all silly, add HP and then try to add stuff to tame the HP. Absolute wrong device to learn to go fast on IMHO.
 
spooky said:
@Paul G

I don’t think people ‘pretending to yourself that it makes you faster because it must be betterer’ is what’s happening. I don’t see anyone saying anything like that. Anyone not racing, which is the vast majority, are doing these things because they enjoy doing it and it’s another aspect of the hobby they find interesting and enjoy. I might have a guess that most who are racing without big bucks behind them have even less interest in these things than the rest of us - just make it cheap and fixable…

I’m not sure why some seem to get their panties in a twirl about it or why they have to keep banging on about it not making a difference to lap times - everyone knows that and, really, so what?

None of this, including my response, provides anything of value to the thread. I’d just like to see people being able to have a thread about their bike without a small minority feeling the need to take a crap in their swimming pool.
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So basically you’re playing Barbi but with motorcycles. When you treat something like a toy when it’s a tool, you’re going to get treated like a kid.
 
Paul G said:
… its a V4 that Pecco was lapping within 5 seconds of MotoGP times...
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I don’t accept that as accurate - that given millions of dollars for R&D and the best riders in the world on payroll, the best engineers in the world can design a multi-million dollar prototype that’s only 5 seconds faster than a production bike?

Yeah, ok. ;)
 
Five seconds is a lot and in a 20 lap race. One second faster means you finish a half a mile ahead of the other bike, five seconds faster means the same rider on two different bikes. Would lap the slower bike and a 20 lap race. These bikes aren’t Formula One cars with 50 times the contact, patch triple the power, and as much downforce as an airplane with the wind resistance of an arrow compared to say a road going Porsche or Ferrari.
 
SuperDomestique said:
So basically you’re playing Barbi but with motorcycles. When you treat something like a toy when it’s a tool, you’re going to get treated like a kid.n
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They are toys for big boys. No one here is a professional racer and no one needs a Panigale, us kiddies with a few spare bucks want them and the same goes for virtually any pastime i.e its optional. I happen to really enjoy the motorcycle hobby which started nearly 50 years ago, I can ride them, do some spannering, improve them, bling 'em, look at them etc and there is so much to learn about every single aspect that I fully intend to be occupied with the hobby until I pop my clogs. Obviously riding any 200hp+ machine only a few mm of cowhide and plastic between you and multiple skin grafts requires a degree of seriousness and discipline in your work habits.
 
There are significant differences though, remember the race of champions on V4S's? they had to reduce it I think from 20 to 12 laps due to heat, I think the V4S is fast over a lap but keep the pressure on at MotoGP level and you start finding weaknesses
 
spooky said:
I was quoting what it said in the article… The comment said it was on a production bike, linked to an article to support this, and the article quoted Pecco saying "The bike is a V4S with V4R suspension elements, Moto2 exhaust system and brakes".
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Moto 2 exhaust 🤔
 

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