Back in the shop

Steven31371 said:

Nah, I’ve sat on one, feels fine, you don’t really know until you have a bike on track how it’s going to feel on track, but I felt pretty good sitting on it.

Now I’m leaning toward keeping my current bike, and getting a Kramer Evo2 R though, something the opposite of my bike but that will still turn as good as my bike.

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That's the ideal solution.

I was surprised how roomy the Kramer GP2 RR is - everything felt like it was in exactly the right place. It's a pretty cool bit of kit.

Get yourself one and then make me jealous by telling me how awesome it is.

Made a few adjustments on the bike.

Went back to the VultureBike tank extender, and raised the footpegs, I can pinch the tank a bit better that way, had to adjust the linked on the shifter to raise the shifter peg up to accommodate the higher footpegs.

Also got around to putting on the Kraatech steering damper bracket. Very easy to do and adds piece of mind that I’m not gunna brake the steering damper loose from the frame if I pay the bike down.

I also changed the IMA triple tree eccentrics back to the stock 30mm offset from the 26mm where I had it.

The IMA triple tree was one of the 1st mods I did on the bike, before I did the Pierobon extended swingarm and the Superleggera wings. The bike just felt unstable in the front end and I was hoping that the additional offset would stabilize it a bit, and it did ‘somewhat’.

Later I added the swingarm. I think the smaller offset combined with the longer swingarm was too much, also those superlegerra wings actually made the biggest difference to front end stability.

Took the bike out for some canyons runs and it does seem to flow better through back to back corners with the 30mm versus 26mm offset, but I want really know until I’m back at track in couple weeks how she feels at speed.

I also moved the bottom wings into the high downforce position, because my next track day is at Big Willow at Willow Springs, which is counter intuitive for that high speed track, but nearly the entire lap you are into downforce speeds on long sweepers, and the scariest part of that track a wheelie trap at lean on turn 6…you are going over a rise at lean at close to 100 mph, the wings actually do help to keep the front end down there.

Sounds like you went full circle haha

spooky said:

He passed me into a bend and buggered off out of sight down the back straight on his back wheel with a passenger on the back... He makes it look effortless.

One of the instructors told me he rode pillion with Troy at a track and when he checked the bike after to look at the stats he'd done 58 degrees of lean angle...

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I was on the pillion with him on Mugello, man that’s an experience . One lap wheelie, one lap sliding, one lap fast! Totally in control, 2.06 with me on the back on a standard S1000rr.

shifter still looks very low, very far from your foot peg

KarlKani said:

shifter still looks very low, very far from your foot peg

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Took that pick before adjusting the linkage and moving slightly up

As for distance, I wear a size 12 US boot lol

I read the whole thread. Wow!

@Steven31371 about your next bike -- I am lighter than you, 160 lbs dressed up and with a latte in my tummy, and my V2 feels just right. I rarely ride track, and haven't taken the V2 to track yet, but have a feeling it will be right at home. With Akrapovic slip on and a Deussen tune, it's very lively, although doesn't rev as high. If you are considering a V2 I'd love to share more of my observations.

I had a Tuono before, and found to be an excellent track bike. Easier ergos, excellent handling, and the harder you push it the better it goes. Oddly, the Tuono was a better track bike whereas the S1000RRs (I had 2017 and 2020) were better street bikes. The Tuono (at least the 2018 I had) was easily tunable. The cat was in the can so a sub-$1k for a full system-equivalent.

SuperDomestique said:

Sounds like you went full circle haha

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Pretty much lol

Adjusted the shifter arm again today, happy with where the footpegs and shifter location are now.

The big news is the my Discacciati Index finger brake came today. So I took off the IMA thumb brake and replaced it with the Index finger brake. Very easy job because I had all the plumbing ran from the IMA setup and was able to move a few things around to get everything to fit up. Not totally happy with the tube running to the reservoirs but it’s functional for now until I get some more Tygon tubing that I can cut into longer pieces and route things a bit better.

I kept the second IMA rear master cylinder mounted near the right footpeg and the Discacciati MC at the handlebar works well with it. Happy about that, saved several hundred bucks and a lot of extra work.

You’ve fitted it above the clutch lever?

spooky said:

You’ve fitted it above the clutch lever?

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Yes, just sitting on the bike it felt good using both leavers that way, tomorrow I’ll test ride it with gloves on and see

Ride safe Steven, looking forward to your analysis as always.

Scooter brake setup the clutch is always above the brake

KarlKani said:

Scooter brake setup the clutch is always above the brake

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Why?

I mean if you’re 5’6” and only use the clutch when you’re in a tucked position for a race launch I came to get it. But I am.6’3” with a different angle of my arms to the handlebar, so I’d have to really crank my wrist and drop my elbow to use the clutch. I don’t see any mechanical or safety reason why you need the clutch above the scooter brake instead of below it, and ergonomically it feels way better?

The clutch isn't used, The brake is what should be in the primary position

Steven31371 said:

Why?

I mean if you’re 5’6” and only use the clutch when you’re in a tucked position for a race launch I came to get it. But I am.6’3” with a different angle of my arms to the handlebar, so I’d have to really crank my wrist and drop my elbow to use the clutch. I don’t see any mechanical or safety reason why you need the clutch above the scooter brake instead of below it, and ergonomically it feels way better?

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I would’ve thought you want the brake in a normal low position as you use it a lot. The clutch is only used maybe twice.

Ahh, now I get where you’re coming from. I’ll try to take some pics showing the angle that I have the brake lever at it is actually in the right position, roughly matching ergonomically, the same position as the front brake on the right hand side, I think you just can’t tell from the pictures I posted, the clutches below that in a lower position then you would normally have it.

If it works for you then that’s all that matters, but I’ve never seen anyone set it up like that before. Every other one I have seen puts the clutch well up out of the way.

When I did mine brake on top was the most comfortable and as I’ll use it more often than the clutch I wanted it the go to lever rather than a conscious move to get to below.

I also found the available space restricted which way around it was. Lifting the clutch lever up and it catches on the front fairing mount having the rear brake master low it catches on the fairing on full lock

It’s also positioned to use the index finger rather than a full grip

Never seen it before and then two come along…