Well I see that there was a bit of hostility today and I cannot say that I disagree with it. I have been a member here for 5 years and this place has changed quite a bit. I suppose it is a sign of the times and seems to fit nicely with the continued neutering of things. When I joined there were guys playing with 12K SBK forks, 5K brake calipers, RS motors, custom machined parts, doing their own wiring harnesses, building their own carbon, aftermarket clutches and gear boxes, building motors etc now its videos on how to wash your bike and how to take a fairing off and turn signals, mirrors, gas caps, shiny bolts and even stickers and decals. Granted the skill level of males in general with regards to mechanical things has seen better days. I have seen guys on this board petrified to turn a wrench on a bike but certainly chime in with their opinions on how to do things. I get it. It's a public forum and people like to be heard especially with the anonymity that the internet provides. Everyone here routinely winds there new V4 up until the ----- appear on the display on the street bla bla. In high school, we "built" cars. We had shop class. "Building" back in the day meant starting with parts. You built your motor, transmission, rear end, interior, body work etc. Thats a "build", buying a car off the show room floor and putting tires and wheels, floor mats and a stereo in it isn't a build. It's accessorizing at best. Maybe you just start your thread with "another accessorized V4" and go from there. That way you don't draw fire from members that can and have actually "built" something. As Mick alluded to, most of the builders and tech nerds have all left for the most part and stay in touch via other means. There just wasn't any content here anymore. There are a plethora of questions that have been answered ad nauseam that somehow failed to find their way to the search box and a .... load of posts of modifications that have been done over and over by former members long ago. Maybe its just me but I tend to try and not post something that someone has already posted and done better than I did it. Try the search function, if you have something tangible to ad, by all means. I get posting a pick of a freshly built SL motor with all the goodies being readied for installation or a custom made carbon front end but a couple of bolts in a package? a clutch slave that we have all seen a million times? a stock V4 off the showroom floor? Really? Is this the level of excitement that now exists? Everyone is accepted here and there is no discrimination from what I can tell which is how it should be but I definitely see that this place is at this point fairly lopsided with respect to content diversity. We tried to get the mods to build a "nerd nest" where the geeks could go and have their little space without having to navigate through the poo but it didn't go over. Sorry for the rant hope no one is offended, well not everyone anyhow. Carry on with those "builds".