Can't decide: V4 or V4s?

Good morning Italian machine admirers,

I'm about to purchase my first Ducati ever, but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

First, I'm not sure whether the V4s is more efficient in tracks or in streets, or does it apply to both?? I'm only using it for streets. Which leads me to my second point, the roads in Egypt are disastrous, does that put the V4s on top of my list? However, I'm already used to Egypt roads with much less inferior motorcycles than the Ducati, so this will be super luxurious for me anyway.

The final monster is: If I get the V4s, I wont be able to afford an akra. If I get the V4, the akra is affordable. I personally opt for the V4+Akra. What do you guys think? If there's anything else that I need to keep in mind in general, please do let me know.

I went with the V4 base with the intention of buying the Akra exhaust and was happy enough with how fast the bike is so I just left it stock for now. The are a bunch of other exhaust options coming out for half the price that look and sound just as good.

That being said, if you have the money for the S and you've got a mix of garbage and good streets, grab it. The streets where I live are pretty good so the S provided no real advantage for me so I just got a base and upgraded to Ohlins cartridges in the front and a TTX rear shock.

It sounds to me like you'd benefit way more from the adaptive suspension than the extra power, so I'd recommend the S. Neither choice is bad though, I doubt you'd regret either option!

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I'd go for V4S. You'll get the electronic olhins suspensions which are are useful on the road. The stock exhaust is fine for the road. You won't need the Akra which by the way is not street legal here in Europe due to pollution emissions.



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Seriously a 1st world problem.

You have to ask yourself, "Do I want an exhaust or Forged Wheels and Ohlins". To most it's an easy decision.

AmpForE said:

Seriously a 1st world problem.

You have to ask yourself, "Do I want an exhaust or Forged Wheels and Ohlins". To most it's an easy decision.

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Not quite that easy since you can grab a base like me and throw Ohlins suspension and carbon fiber wheels on it for the same price as an S. It's more of whether you want to have the electronic suspension adjustability or spend that money elsewhere.

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Grab the base. It sounds like that's what you want and there's nothing wrong with it.

If you get the base, get the suspension set up for your roads by someone who knows what they are doing

Egypt?

Base!

If your the type to have a lust for ohlins and forged rims on your bike go with the S.
If you can accept the base as a bike you can be happy with as a base model get the base.

If you buy a base and then rip it apart for ohlins front, rear, and dampner.
And a set of forged rims off ebay just remember you still have a Base V4. And wont recover that money when you trade/sell it. You will be annoyed and the shop or joe smoe will be very happy with the upgrades.

Darwin604 said:

Not quite that easy since you can grab a base like me and throw Ohlins suspension and carbon fiber wheels on it for the same price as an S. It's more of whether you want to have the electronic suspension adjustability or spend that money elsewhere.

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Yes it is just that easy because it's either wheels and Ohlins OR the exhaust. The OP said he could not afford both.

ductales said:

If you get the base, get the suspension set up for your roads by someone who knows what they are doing

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This needs to be done regardless of getting the base or S and should not have a impact on his decision.

For your situation!!! The S!!!!

Go for the fast one...

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Yes it is just that easy because it's either wheels and Ohlins OR the exhaust. The OP said he could not afford both.

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No, because he can grab a base and do that stuff himself and have an arguably better bike than the S. I'll take my BST carbon wheels and manual adjust Ohlins on my base over the S any day since I'm almost always on the same surface type. The forged wheels are marginally better and the lithium battery is a cheap swap. The only thing worth considering between the S and base is the dynamic suspension.

If you're constantly going between garbage and smooth pavement or are a maniac at the track that really feels you'll get some value from on the fly adjustments, get the S. If you're an average rider on a consistent surface (like me), the base + your own choice of upgrades is better value.

Money being no object, obviously grab the S, but that doesn't seem to apply to the OP.

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For road riding I like my S because of the suspension. Nice to switch it to road mode on bumpy roads.

I really appreciate all of your feedback fellas! I'm still sided with the V4 over the V4s since I keep thinking to myself that I've been riding a trash can 2010 CBR600RR for 3 years, and sure there are some roads that are too bumpy especially on high speeds, but I've been doing fine, so no need to get all luxurious now!

I've forgot to ask one more question (jump to tl;dr if you wanna read the question right away). I'm importing my bike through a private office that specializes in importing motorcycles from USA to Egypt, because Ducati Egypt is overpricing the V4 by ~65k EGP (3.5k USD). So after contacting that private office, they gave me a quote of the V4 from door to door for $26,200 (Egypt's customs are insane). What made me second question myself is that they said it's a brand new _2019_ V4. I couldn't find any information about the 2019 line on the internet except for the V4R which is said to be in dealerships in March.

tl;dr - is the 2019 Panigale V4 released in dealerships?
EDIT: I've also read some hardships regarding the Akrapovic tuning. It should be an easy task for a motorcycle dealership that has a dyno with previous experience in tuning motorcycles, but not necessarily the V4, right?
EDIT 2: I've read some people commenting that it's not recommended to install any exhaust until they do 5k miles on the bike, what's that about?

I have the base and the small bump compliance of the rear shock was horrible but after having it revalved it is super smooth but much firmer through the stroke and cost not a lot


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I tested the S and couldnt tell the difference. Saved the money, got the base, and did my own mods.

Motzarelli said:

I have the base and the small bump compliance of the rear shock was horrible but after having it revalved it is super smooth but much firmer through the stroke and cost not a lot


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Details on the revalve? Cost? Did you send it away?

spinkick said:

Details on the revalve? Cost? Did you send it away?

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I had it done by terry hay at shock treatment. I took the bike to him and waited and watched. Cost was only $600 but he didn't need to change the springs


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