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Well that’s the real issue, he is the service mgr AND the lead Duc tech…. He actually called me back this morning apologizing telling me my S does indeed have a LIon battery.
At least he did that. Still super surprising a tech wouldn’t know that off hand.
 
At least he did that. Still super surprising a tech wouldn’t know that off hand.

OK, well he didn’t actually apologize, but he clarified that he was misinformed. Yeah it’s a little disturbing to me that I suppose the real issue I have is is there’s a charging lead that was added for $20 which I don’t care about the $20 of course but that’s for a lead acid battery. I’m assuming?
 
They make battery tenders for Li batteries, not that they're really needed. Probably more useful if you need your Li battery to function in extreme cold, but even then you could just turn key on and give it a few seconds before you start it.

It seems to be standard for Ducati dealerships to install the tender pigtail then try to sell you the tender. They much have great margins on those items.
 
The thing about the tender wire that I questioned was whether someone maybe topped it off wt a lead acid battery charger, being the bike was a cordoned-off display model.

For sure I am pleased the S has a Lith battery. My recently sold 2018 CBR SP1 comes wt one that functioned perfectly for the 7+ years of ownership, never failed to fire up.
 
I don't think topping off a Li battery with a normal tender is terrible. I've done it. I was playing with a diagnostic tool with the key on which depleted the battery a bit.

Further, I very highly doubt the charging system on the bike knows which type of battery is installed.

I wouldn't, and I don't, make it a habit of keeping a non specific Li battery tender attached.

Short term, fine. Long term, not fine.
 
I just purchased a ‘24 Pan V4S earlier today.

I recall reading that the base comes wt a lead acid batt at the S comes wt a Lithium Ion.

The service mgr, as well as being the head Duc tech, told me adamantly, ‘No’, the S does not have a LIon batt.

Does it come standard wt a Lithium Ion battery?

Thank you!

I have a 23. It definitely has a lithium ion battery as I've just experienced battery issues after one year. I'm still in the process of determining if it was my lack of using a tender during periods of low use or if I have a faulty stator or voltage regulator. I will have answers on this soon as I work thru the troubleshooting.
 
Andy is such a dolt that he doesn’t realize the same motor is in the SF and similar motor is new Multi
I believe you are the exact idiot I am referring to… why would you want arse in the air and weight on the wrists at the low street speed?and anyone Willy waving about riding at speed on the street is just a bullshitter…
Engine and power are not the point, it’s all about ride position and comfort on the street…
 
I don't think topping off a Li battery with a normal tender is terrible. I've done it. I was playing with a diagnostic tool with the key on which depleted the battery a bit.

Further, I very highly doubt the charging system on the bike knows which type of battery is installed.

I wouldn't, and I don't, make it a habit of keeping a non specific Li battery tender attached.

Short term, fine. Long term, not fine.

The problem with the lead/acid setting on lithium is when it's really discharged. Otherwise doesn't matter much.
 
I believe you are the exact idiot I am referring to… why would you want arse in the air and weight on the wrists at the low street speed?and anyone Willy waving about riding at speed on the street is just a bullshitter…
Engine and power are not the point, it’s all about ride position and comfort on the street…

Which is why I have an SF. But I still don't know why they don't deliver them with Pani geometry which is so much better.
 
I believe you are the exact idiot I am referring to… why would you want arse in the air and weight on the wrists at the low street speed?and anyone Willy waving about riding at speed on the street is just a bullshitter…
Engine and power are not the point, it’s all about ride position and comfort on the street…

Why do you have your arse in the air? Is it because you’re waving it like you just don’t care?
 
I believe you are the exact idiot I am referring to… why would you want arse in the air and weight on the wrists at the low street speed?and anyone Willy waving about riding at speed on the street is just a bullshitter…
Engine and power are not the point, it’s all about ride position and comfort on the street…

Havent you read the news? 95% of Panigales sold are ridden on the street 100% of the time. The track is one thing, but riding fast on the street is as old as motorcycling. For errands, commuting and around town, Panigales are as you imply- unsuited, but there no better bike for the twisties. Ive toured, commuted, tracked, ridden dirt roads on the V4 and its just fine. Do I want to spend 20k on track bling? Not really but if it was my only thing I might, as for the S vs base question; if you can afford the S get it because its a better street bike.
 
so you don't know and like your usual addition to any thread its unfounded horseshit! with or without the internet...... id stick to giving riding advise.......now thats funny!

You tell me, Rambo…

You’ve got to be a right fooking .... rocket to think that you’re Rambo. I pray for the British public that this maniac is running around shaking his minuscule baton at people that offend him

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