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I'm no expert on this matter as I'm still working on my track riding skills, but I will agree with the rest of the guys as you have to get your upper body off more. As I drop my shoulder everything else follows right with it.
l noticed your bar end mirrors, I think if you took them off it'd give you more room to twist your wrist on the inside of the corner giving you a better upper body positioning. Also try moving a little more of your rear end off the seat, I like to go full cheek off the seat and tends to help.
 
As others have said I'm no Rossi but I have learned a lot from YCRS. The video below shows some of the things that have helped me and the model isn't bad either. Pay close attention to inside foot position. That one thing made a big difference in body position. Especially with a higher peg position.

[youtube]Z69KT4ShM6Y[/youtube]
 
gramps said:
As others have said I'm no Rossi but I have learned a lot from YCRS. The video below shows some of the things that have helped me and the model isn't bad either. Pay close attention to inside foot position. That one thing made a big difference in body position. Especially with a higher peg position.

[youtube]Z69KT4ShM6Y[/youtube]
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sorry twisted i couldnt resist this

good thing your not rossi gramps as you would have been getting smoked every year since 2010 averaging one win a year for the last 6 years and no wins so far in 2017. :D
 
mark419ny said:
sorry twisted i couldnt resist this

good thing your not rossi gramps as you would have been getting smoked every year since 2010 averaging one win a year for the last 6 years and no wins so far in 2017. :D
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? I would push an old person down a set of stairs to be a Moto GP god.
 
oh twisted one more thing i believe you have an R and the anniversary right. i would definitely put the R on the track and just stare at the anniversary.

for me i ride the 1199, stare at the hp4, track the ninja.

the only reason i dont ride the hp4 that much (under 1500 miles) is that god forbid i crash it i can never get another one. if i crash the pani i can get one tomorrow.
 
mark419ny said:
oh twisted one more thing i believe you have an R and the anniversary right. i would definitely put the R on the track and just stare at the anniversary.

for me i ride the 1199, stare at the hp4, track the ninja.

the only reason i dont ride the hp4 that much (under 1500 miles) is that god forbid i crash it i can never get another one. if i crash the pani i can get one tomorrow.
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Yeah Mark, the R finally hit the track Saturday. The Anniversario was only on the track for the lunch time ride at the races.
 
I saw some of the track pics from Saturday. Unfortunately I had called it a day before the photographer shot turn 9. That's a long left where I could could work on body position. Turn 7 shots showed that I was inconsistent there. Sometimes I was Doohan style. I guess I'm an older rider trying to adopt the modern young rider style. More work.
 
Overall, I don't think you look too bad. I would definitely suggest listening to some of Ken Hill's podcast if you haven't already. Ken does a very nice job describing many subjects, including body position.

Take what you want from these pics (or critique me as well), but body position has always been something that I'm pretty particular about. For reference, I'm 5'11" around 175-180lbs and ride in the "advance" group for track days (definitely not the fastest guy out there though...;))

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jmparton said:
Overall, I don't think you look too bad. I would definitely suggest listening to some of Ken Hill's podcast if you haven't already. Ken does a very nice job describing many subjects, including body position.

Take what you want from these pics (or critique me as well), but body position has always been something that I'm pretty particular about. For reference, I'm 5'11" around 175-180lbs and ride in the "advance" group for track days (definitely not the fastest guy out there though...;))

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Looking good out there imparting!

I agree, Ken Hill's Podcasts are awesome and full of great info. One thing that Ken does talk about is that body position is lower on his priority list and you can be a very fast rider with less than stellar body position. Bike placement, vision, and brakes are all higher on his list of what to focus on.

For example, take a look at Toprack Razgatlioglu in WSSTK, and you can see his body position doesn't effect how damn fast he is. He just doesn't appear as fluid or exaggerated with his body but it doesn't effect his ability to win.
 
jmparton said:
Overall, I don't think you look too bad. I would definitely suggest listening to some of Ken Hill's podcast if you haven't already. Ken does a very nice job describing many subjects, including body position.

Take what you want from these pics (or critique me as well), but body position has always been something that I'm pretty particular about. For reference, I'm 5'11" around 175-180lbs and ride in the "advance" group for track days (definitely not the fastest guy out there though...;))

spkt5h.jpg

2dlw0t2.jpg

2dhd02f.jpg
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Looking at your pics your chest seems 3/4 off the tank. I'm only halfway. I'll work for more.
 
Twistedracer said:
Looking at your pics your chest seems 3/4 off the tank. I'm only halfway. I'll work for more.
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One thing consider is that He is NOT riding a Panigale. All bikes are different so you can't completely compare.

I had to adjust for every bike at the track, whether it was BMW1000RR, Honda, or whatever.

Having said that, I think you look solid. Leather looks good. What size are you wearing? I have the same suit and I am same height. And I also agree with both you and Heron about Knee Sliders needing to be higher.

Only thing I can say and it is Same thing I am working on is to put my head down more and head more off the bike, working on my hand grip to be able to bend my elbows more.
 
youngR said:
One thing consider is that He is NOT riding a Panigale. All bikes are different so you can't completely compare.

I had to adjust for every bike at the track, whether it was BMW1000RR, Honda, or whatever.

Having said that, I think you look solid. Leather looks good. What size are you wearing? I have the same suit and I am same height. And I also agree with both you and Heron about Knee Sliders needing to be higher.

Only thing I can say and it is Same thing I am working on is to put my head down more and head more off the bike, working on my hand grip to be able to bend my elbows more.
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Suit is a 52. On my old '06 ZX10 I had to rotate my hips around the tank to weight the front properly.
 
Twistedracer said:
Suit is a 52. On my old '06 ZX10 I had to rotate my hips around the tank to weight the front properly.
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Oh ok. I am currently wearing 50 and its getting tighter every year. I dont think I will fit in few years as I will get fat as I get older. haha! :D

I did notice that Dainese 52 and Ducati 52 is little too long on the legs...

Does not go with my short legs. I think Italians have longer legs and shorter upper body. lol
 
youngR said:
Oh ok. I am currently wearing 50 and its getting tighter every year. I dont think I will fit in few years as I will get fat as I get older. haha! :D

I did notice that Dainese 52 and Ducati 52 is little too long on the legs...

Does not go with my short legs. I think Italians have longer legs and shorter upper body. lol
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I think their model had a case of saggy knee syndrome :p
 

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