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I called my dealer today to ask about delivery time etc. and to my surprise he told me that it is not longer possible to get a 1299 because they have stopped production and no Ducati dealer in Denmark has one for sale. What I need to do if I want one is to travel to germany and get one from there and that really wouldn't be a problem but the dealer told me that Ducati will unveil a new V4 bike in October/November on a Ducati conference. Now I'm really confused... just as I took the decision on getting a 1299s over the other models I'm now confused again.. Should I wait and see what Ducati will bring forth or should I get the 1299s? What's your thoughts on this? And does anyone have more specific info about the new V4? Man everything is just so confusing at the moment hehe :)
 
Should I wait and see what Ducati will bring forth or should I get the 1299s? What's your thoughts on this?

A 1299s is a fantastic thing but if it was me and it was only about 10 weeks till the new V4 was available I would wait. If you hate the V4 when it comes I'm sure a 1299s will be able to be found or a rock bottom priced 1299R FE.
 
A 1299s is a fantastic thing but if it was me and it was only about 10 weeks till the new V4 was available I would wait. If you hate the V4 when it comes I'm sure a 1299s will be able to be found or a rock bottom priced 1299R FE.



Is it 10 weeks?
 
I have ridden them all and I own a '17 ZX-10RR (racebike), '16 RSV4 RF, '17 Tuono Factory 1100, '15 R1M (racebike), '16 R1 60th Anniversary, '16 Panigale R, '13 1199R and a '17 1299 Superleggera and some other supermoto, flat track and dirt bikes.....

It depends on what you want from a bike. The Ducati is harder to ride but quite good on a curvy mountain road and the most racy of the bunch out the of the box and works quite well with a basic setup if you are between 165-190 lbs. The ZX-10RR and RSV4 BOTH have excellent throttle action which is SUPER smooth and this to me is one of the MOST important aspects in a sport bike. The ZX-10RR is a bit lifeless on the edge of the tire because the electronics are too conservative. The RSV4 is an incredible motor and great drive off a corner and it gets even better with their RACE ecu. The Kawi has a race ecu option but it is for track ONLY as it eliminates the headlights and flash tuning isn't good on the Kawis.... The R1/M is AWESOME BUT the throttle is TOO twitchy, the rear is a bit low and the seat it too slippery. All of these problems can be solved and the FT ECU suite of products is EXCELLENT for THIS particular bike. The auto-blip is magical, the RACE TEAM package gives you some smoother throttle maps and less invasive TC. The R1 or RSV4 are the bike(s) to get. The Ducati is SEXY but it isn't the best street bike. The NEW 2017 RSV4 RF is remarkable and with a simple slip-on, race ecu, Stomp Grip and rearsets you have a bike that has class-leading HP, sounds amazing and the smoothest throttle in the business with excellent brakes and suspension.

Hope I helped give you some insight. Happy to answer any other questions you might have.....ignore the haters.
 
I have ridden them all and I own a '17 ZX-10RR (racebike), '16 RSV4 RF, '17 Tuono Factory 1100, '15 R1M (racebike), '16 R1 60th Anniversary, '16 Panigale R, '13 1199R and a '17 1299 Superleggera and some other supermoto, flat track and dirt bikes.....

Good heavens..... what a stash of sweet bikes.
 
Wow that's some serious bikes! Your post definitely gave me some more insight. Now for me the Aprilia dont do it. I like the look of it from the side but the front just doesn't appeal to me but man it is one of the best sounding bikes I've ever heard! So, if you had a choice to pick either a 1299s or a R1 to use mainly on the street you would go for the R1? And why not the R1M?
Thanks for your help
 
I was just in touch with a dealer from Audi that gave me two very good offers. One on the 1299 FE and one on the Anniversario. I'm wondering which one would be the best investment? I know the FE marks the end of an era however they are not limited as the Anniversario which in my opinion make them a bit more special.. Which bike do you guys think will hold its price best? And what would you have picked?
I asked her about the V4 and she said she did not know anything for sure but she had heard they might reveal the bike in September
 
I was just in touch with a dealer from Audi that gave me two very good offers. One on the 1299 FE and one on the Anniversario. I'm wondering which one would be the best investment? I know the FE marks the end of an era however they are not limited as the Anniversario which in my opinion make them a bit more special.. Which bike do you guys think will hold its price best? And what would you have picked?
I asked her about the V4 and she said she did not know anything for sure but she had heard they might reveal the bike in September

Yes September is only next month.
I would wait to see what it's like, it may be amazing and a game changer.
Nothing is going to hold it's price, nothing :) don't buy a superbike thinking about what it will be worth when you sell, if we knew we would have a garage full.

I bought a 996 sps pista very limited addition only 100 produced at the end of the 996 line, the previous owner paid $40,000 AU for it and I think I payed 12 for it or something. In 40 years it will be worth a fortune :)
 
I was just in touch with a dealer from Audi that gave me two very good offers. One on the 1299 FE and one on the Anniversario. I'm wondering which one would be the best investment? I know the FE marks the end of an era however they are not limited as the Anniversario which in my opinion make them a bit more special.. Which bike do you guys think will hold its price best? And what would you have picked?

I asked her about the V4 and she said she did not know anything for sure but she had heard they might reveal the bike in September



At 40k for the FE, the price makes them limited enough. No way they sell so many that the value is diminished.
 
I've thought about weighing in but it's so subjective and personal. But here it is. A little background probably helps. I'm 64 now, was 60 when I bought the 1199. I've been a major gearhead forever. I've owned fast cars, boats and motorcycles. I roadraced bikes at an Amateur level 35 years ago.

13 years ago I got back into bikes, and at the time was also on a binge buying Corvettes as weekend cars. I quickly wound up with both a sport touring bike and a Goldwing for two up riding. But I wanted something more sporty and wound up with a Ninja 1000 along with the other two.

Somewhere along the line I wanted something really special performance wise (yes, I know this is a long story...get over it). My choice came down to a Z06 Corvette (the 505 hp version) or an 1198 Ducati. I decided an all out crotch rocket was stupid for a guy my age -56 at the time. A Z06 it was.

Well, four years later I didn't need a Goldwing anymore, and the Z06 was sitting too much, so it was time to get a motorcycle that was something special (YES, I'm getting to the comparison part).

I have been friends for many years with the owner of a Ducati/ Honda dealer so a Ducati was an obvious choice. But I also had both a BMW 1600 and the Ninja 1000, so I knew those dealers. I considered everything. But for me I was able to throw practical reasons out the door because I also would have two other bikes.

I knew the Ducati could be a high maintenance mistress. The BMW would give me bragging rights as the fastest bike, and at the time the ZX-10 was the fastest with Japanese reliably.

If it was to be my only bike, I would have bought the ZX-10 for refinement and reliability. If it was to be a track bike the S1000RR for the speed and nannies that might keep me out of trouble. But the bike was to be my third bike. It's kind of like sex. Your going to climax with any of them. But if it's just your mistress, you want "fantasy sex". You know, the stuff most wife's don't want to do.

So, do you want a bike that you know will never cheat on you and will always be there for you but wears boring clothes, or one that can cook and talk intelligently at the office Christmas party while wearing a nice dress, or the one that turns you every which way but loose but may not show up at the hotel every week as promised?
 
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hahaha, love that bit

but your right the rest was boring :)

:D

I should also point out that in four years I have put over 17,000 miles on it despite it being a third bike. I look forward to putting 150 miles on it every Sunday morning, and I can't imagine getting rid of it.
 
:D

I should also point out that in four years I have put over 17,000 miles on it despite it being a third bike. I look forward to putting 150 miles on it every Sunday morning, and I can't imagine getting rid of it.

Your certainly putting it to good use as the designer intended, enjoy :)
 
It's all the same, Wild, raw, character, etc. What do you mean by saying this?



It is something that really suits me and makes me feel great when I am riding my Panigale and it is something that my previous S1000rr didn't have (despite the fact that was still a great bike)
 

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