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Any difference in "SL" flywheel vs "R" ?
Ducati Superleggera Dyno versus Ducati 1199R
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This interested me when I spotted few days ago in for sale thread/post.
" superstock engine build Jan 2014- includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets and superstock spec cam timing.
Before:
Full termi, MWR air filter: 171.40 HP @ 11,300 rpm, torque 86.93
After:
Full termi, Sprint air filter, MR-12, BMS tuning (head gaskets, timing, tuning), 192.64 HP @ 11,300 rpm, 95.73 torque
(before/after dyno chart available email) "
Have asked him what was done to engine internally to get that HP, Which I assume is RWHP?
" superstock engine build Jan 2014- includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets and superstock spec cam timing.
Before:
Full termi, MWR air filter: 171.40 HP @ 11,300 rpm, torque 86.93
After:
Full termi, Sprint air filter, MR-12, BMS tuning (head gaskets, timing, tuning), 192.64 HP @ 11,300 rpm, 95.73 torque
(before/after dyno chart available email) "
Have asked him what was done to engine internally to get that HP, Which I assume is RWHP?
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Your answer is right there, that's what he did. The MR-12 is good for about 10rwhp alone.
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I would imagine its what he described
"Superstock engine build Jan 2014- includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets superstock spec cam timing Full termi, Sprint air filter"
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I mainly wanted to know what "MR-12", "Superstock spec cam timing", What head Gaskets and what "Tuning BMS did"
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Pretty sure they are the same . As I mentioned in a earlier a post I think the combination of a lightened crank and flywheel can not be a great thing for high speed tracks .
This of course is only my opinion .
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Here is my Dyno Number (183 HP) of my base 1199 after tinkering with Rexxer tune (still plenty of room for improvement on A/F ratio probably could squeeze about 4-5 more HP. My Dyno numbers is baselined with the Rexxer standard map vs custom map) On the heels of the SL. Wont be to hard to get 9 more HP without using race gas.
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Shows me raw data where you can improve while tuning. About 1.5 hp difference between 0 and 5. Also 4% diff between Std and SAE.
I didn't see the AFR in your graph. Can you please post that too?
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Not Really here is an SAE correction factor of the same run with smoothing set to 3. This is pretty much the standard way of setting up your dyno run. Most tuners/dyno operators will use these settings. Its easer to convert SAE to STD because its a 4% conversion it will give you 182.75. There is a lot of room for improvement between 6-7.5K because Its running way too rich. I know my bike will get to 185HP SAE with smoothing set to 3 like before I added the Rexxer map, well maybe because anytime you add teeth to the rear you loose HP but gain torque. The only reason I am remapping the bike is because I shorten the throttle throw with rexxer and I had to overwrite another custom map that I was using.
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I watched a handful of Panigales get dyno'd at Ducati Westlake on their dyno day.
S did 165,
my 'R did 176,
and the SL did 187.
Dynojet with smoothing @3.
It's interesting that there were exactly 11 HP gains with each model up.
No mention of it here yet, but I think that Akra is good for a few ponies over the Termi as well so that can account for a few HP.
dyno a SL from australia
to compare my 1199 base with full akra and tune makes 184.99rwhp
Was the dyno comparison with your base v's the sl run at the same time as your base is pulling extremely strong numbers.
same dyno, same tuner. different days (SL was run yesterday, my bike was done last week). My bike does however have a full tune via tuneboy
Impressive, my bike a 1199r with a blueprinted motor, akra and full tune does not pull those numbers its about 178bhp
that looks pretty much in line, i see dyno charts with people pulling 190's on stock bikes and it's always a surprise. The linear curve on the SL is vey impressive and i hear it spools up very quickly.
i am not too fuss about the numbers to be honest, i am more happy with the end results bike feels so much better and the torque is alot more constant down low.
I am looking forward to taking it down to the drags again once the track opens up. to see if the dyno figures results in a higher trap speed.
What ecu are you using?
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