Ducati Superleggera Dyno versus Ducati 1199R

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imbloodyskintagain said:
This interested me when I spotted few days ago in for sale thread/post.

" superstock engine build Jan 2014- includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets and superstock spec cam timing.
Before:
Full termi, MWR air filter: 171.40 HP @ 11,300 rpm, torque 86.93
After:
Full termi, Sprint air filter, MR-12, BMS tuning (head gaskets, timing, tuning), 192.64 HP @ 11,300 rpm, 95.73 torque
(before/after dyno chart available email) "

Have asked him what was done to engine internally to get that HP, Which I assume is RWHP?
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I would imagine its what he described
"Superstock engine build Jan 2014- includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets superstock spec cam timing Full termi, Sprint air filter"
 
ScrapperX said:
I would imagine its what he described
"Superstock engine build Jan 2014– includes remapped ECU/tuning, thinner head gaskets superstock spec cam timing Full termi, Sprint air filter"
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I mainly wanted to know what "MR-12", "Superstock spec cam timing", What head Gaskets and what "Tuning BMS did" :)
 
tcelano said:
Here was a thread with dyno charts on a Base or S bike. Not the same actual dyno, but same Dynojet software, and a reasonable result at 166 rwhp stock.

http://ducati1199.com/marketplace/16131-stock-exhaust-core-service.html#post131043

So, that makes the R about 10 hp stronger with Termis and Upmap, which seems totally reasonable.

To summarize Dynojet RWHP numbers:

Base/S: 166
R: 177
SL: 192
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Here is my Dyno Number (183 HP) of my base 1199 after tinkering with Rexxer tune (still plenty of room for improvement on A/F ratio probably could squeeze about 4-5 more HP. My Dyno numbers is baselined with the Rexxer standard map vs custom map) On the heels of the SL. Wont be to hard to get 9 more HP without using race gas.:p


my rexxer tune 2 2.jpgIMG_3004.jpg
 
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tcelano said:
I think if you fair a line through the middle of that, it's more like 177.
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Not Really here is an SAE correction factor of the same run with smoothing set to 3. This is pretty much the standard way of setting up your dyno run. Most tuners/dyno operators will use these settings. Its easer to convert SAE to STD because its a 4% conversion it will give you 182.75. There is a lot of room for improvement between 6-7.5K because Its running way too rich. I know my bike will get to 185HP SAE with smoothing set to 3 like before I added the Rexxer map, well maybe because anytime you add teeth to the rear you loose HP but gain torque. The only reason I am remapping the bike is because I shorten the throttle throw with rexxer and I had to overwrite another custom map that I was using.


MY Rexxer SAE.jpg
 
BusaDuc said:
Be great to get a dyno of all 3 models
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I watched a handful of Panigales get dyno'd at Ducati Westlake on their dyno day.
S did 165,
my 'R did 176,
and the SL did 187.
Dynojet with smoothing @3.
It's interesting that there were exactly 11 HP gains with each model up.
No mention of it here yet, but I think that Akra is good for a few ponies over the Termi as well so that can account for a few HP.
 
dyno a SL from australia

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to compare my 1199 base with full akra and tune makes 184.99rwhp
 
kaido said:
dyno a SL from australia

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to compare my 1199 base with full akra and tune makes 184.99rwhp
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Was the dyno comparison with your base v's the sl run at the same time as your base is pulling extremely strong numbers.
 
reganc said:
Was the dyno comparison with your base v's the sl run at the same time as your base is pulling extremely strong numbers.
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same dyno, same tuner. different days (SL was run yesterday, my bike was done last week). My bike does however have a full tune via tuneboy
 
kaido said:
same dyno, same tuner. different days (SL was run yesterday, my bike was done last week). My bike does however have a full tune via tuneboy
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Impressive, my bike a 1199r with a blueprinted motor, akra and full tune does not pull those numbers its about 178bhp
 
Pilot said:
I watched a handful of Panigales get dyno'd at Ducati Westlake on their dyno day.
S did 165,
my 'R did 176,
and the SL did 187.
Dynojet with smoothing @3.
It's interesting that there were exactly 11 HP gains with each model up.
No mention of it here yet, but I think that Akra is good for a few ponies over the Termi as well so that can account for a few HP.
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that looks pretty much in line, i see dyno charts with people pulling 190's on stock bikes and it's always a surprise. The linear curve on the SL is vey impressive and i hear it spools up very quickly.
 
reganc said:
Impressive, my bike a 1199r with a blueprinted motor, akra and full tune does not pull those numbers its about 178bhp
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i am not too fuss about the numbers to be honest, i am more happy with the end results bike feels so much better and the torque is alot more constant down low.

I am looking forward to taking it down to the drags again once the track opens up. to see if the dyno figures results in a higher trap speed.

What ecu are you using?
 
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here is my dyno graph, it has a small spike at the top end, so realisticlly the power is more around the 182/183mark. Still has a dip in the mid range but no where near as bad as it was stock

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reganc said:
that looks pretty much in line, i see dyno charts with people pulling 190's on stock bikes and it's always a surprise. The linear curve on the SL is vey impressive and i hear it spools up very quickly.
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I agree completely. IMO the strongest attribute of the SL aside from the ridiculous mass reduction is how well it runs and behaves. It pulls very hard with a more linear feel than my 'R. I suspect between lessons learned on Panigales prior to release of the SL, and giving the engineers time and money to build a nice tune out of the crate, they optimized everything so it works very well together...
 
Pilot said:
I agree completely. IMO the strongest attribute of the SL aside from the ridiculous mass reduction is how well it runs and behaves. It pulls very hard with a more linear feel than my 'R. I suspect between lessons learned on Panigales prior to release of the SL, and giving the engineers time and money to build a nice tune out of the crate, they optimized everything so it works very well together...
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nothing that a good tuner and full exhaust won't fix, i was blown away after i had my bike tuned with the exhaust how much more linear the power feels, i still get a small kick from the torque picking up again at 6000rpm but in the lower rpm you can just roll on the throttle and it feels almost like s1k.

I did go get my flywheel lighten aswell, which definitely helps it to rev faster so to speak
 
kaido said:
nothing that a good tuner and full exhaust won't fix, i was blown away after i had my bike tuned with the exhaust how much more linear the power feels, i still get a small kick from the torque picking up again at 6000rpm but in the lower rpm you can just roll on the throttle and it feels almost like s1k.

I did go get my flywheel lighten aswell, which definitely helps it to rev faster so to speak
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Yes, my point is that the tune and exhaust is already done well out of the crate. I do hear there's a new 'R flash from Ducati so maybe that'll roll in some of the sweetness from the SL tune...
 

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