Dynoing my 1299S tomorrow

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JDBeretta said:
Seems to get it off of the end caps of the pipes, but I could see baked-on being a different issue.
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End caps come off with no problem the black canister of the exhaust is the problem as the heat baked the excessive amounts of chain lube on the canister.

Don't mean to thread high jack my guess 182rwhp
 
Someone already dynoed at 177, but since it's your bike I bumped it up a little. If anyone were to have an overachieving bike, it'd be you...deservingly might I add.
 
Indiana Jones said:
Someone already dynoed at 177, but since it's your bike I bumped it up a little.
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Dynos easily vary by 10-15+% from location to location, then there's ambient temp, RH, elevation, etc. Relative numbers are more insightful - this is the same dyno he tested the S1000RR on
 
fzr100098 said:
Dynos easily vary by 10-15+% from location to location, then there's ambient temp, RH, elevation, etc. Relative numbers are more insightful - this is the same dyno he tested the S1000RR on
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correct... The conditions here in the SF Bay Area are quite variable; at the ocean, you get cold dense air that's quite damp.. You are at, or close to absolute sea level. Inland, it gets higher and warmer, but still really good conditions.. The only downside is that our gasoline is utter crap...

Really, this is just a baseline for me to get a known figure vs. another known figure from my BMW. Tomorrow I will know..
 
stw said:
a box of cookies...at the very least :)
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Full Akra 185 and 97 ft-lb on Dynojet. We have seen very close consistency between different dynos and good consistency between different models of each bike. Variables like tire pressure, hold-down tension, and fan position can affect results, but if the operator knows what they are doing, and is consistent, numbers should be very close each time.

Note to all: Removing the DB killers from the Akra will actually cost you 2 hp and 2 ft lb, plus makes the bike not feel like it is running quite right. I did back to back on mine, with multiple pulls to confirm. Another new 1299 came to the shop last weekend. I wasn't on the bike during the runs, but I looked at the data afterwards, and immediately suspected that it was missing the DB killers due to the dip between 7-8k and loss of the power. Contacted the dealer, and sure enough, they had removed them for this owner. Take my word for it. Leave them in.
 
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Were you posting a before and after Dyno tune or is this just a baseline run? I could see 10+ HP being unlocked with a tune and exhaust
 
Bike was 183 hp and 97 ft-lb with stock exhaust. 185 hp and 97 ft-lb after full Akra and Up-map. That sounds disappointing, but all of the gains were in the midrage, and they were actually very impressive, on top of an already very impressive stock tune.

The 1299 Akra Up-map has the best fueling calibration I've yet seen on any Ducati, and maybe any bike for that matter. Way, way better than the messed-up excuse for a AFR plot you get on an 1199 with Termis.
 
I've run a Panigale R with "Stock" exhaust, which is kit Akra headers. It only made 178 hp on the same dyno, and was just a wee bit stronger than my 1199R with full Termis. I have not had an opportunity yet to see what new R does with full Akra and up-map yet.
 
Tcelano's posts are awfully close to my "guess" (which is just spec minus 10% for DTL)
 
fzr100098 said:
Not bad at all...
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When you overlay it over the 1199's graph, it looks absurd.

It is proving to be very much more difficult to set up. The midrange torque is absurd, and it does all kinds of lively things the old bike didn't do. I've only ridden it a couple times, but I am still much slower on it than on the 1199R.
 
tcelano said:
When you overlay it over the 1199's graph, it looks absurd.

It is proving to be very much more difficult to set up. The midrange torque is absurd, and it does all kinds of lively things the old bike didn't do. I've only ridden it a couple times, but I am still much slower on it than on the 1199R.
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Because of having to manage the torque/the 14R is just a little bit sharper or just new bike and getting used to it?
 
Surely if you get the full Akra with DB killers removed custom tuned it would be have more HP than with the DBs in? I could see why just using the upmap only May have a negative effect because the exhaust is now flowing more than it was when the upmap tune was done maybe?
 
sexparty said:
Because of having to manage the torque/the 14R is just a little bit sharper or just new bike and getting used to it?
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Actually, it responds very controllably, and the motor is incredibly linear. The difficulty comes simply because there is so much thrust it overwhelms the chassis. The setup issues that plagued some of the 1199's (i.e. headshake and front end instability) are greatly amplified at the increased torque level. I've measured it out, and it appears that the rear ride height on the S is about 10mm lower than the R. Made the adjustment for next time, and we will see if I can get on the throttle earlier. I was initially having headshake trouble even in a straight line. The changes I'd made after riding it the first time made some improvements, but it was still to where people pacing me could literally see the bike moving around.
 

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