Fuel Tank Removal

andyb said:

You can only piss with the cock you are given…,

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That’s why we have forums full of cocks.

spooky said:

That’s why we have forums full of cocks.

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What? You left off speed crazed degenerates...

This seems to be the bit that is stopping it fitting into place.

The pierbon piece looks like a streetfighter subframe made out of aluminum (instead of cast iron). The Panigale dry wt. is called out 11 lbs less than a SF. The only real difference between the 2 bikes is the rear subframe and the fairings or lack of. And this is what 2/3 the weight of the stock pani part?

baggerman said:

Be nice. We've all been there. He was hoping for a nice day playing with his motorcycle without having to modify multiple parts.

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It’s like this is the first time he’s actually wrenched on a Ducati…

Working on a Ducati is like a Russian nesting doll. You need to take a part of to access the part that’s blocking the part that’s blocking the part that’s blocking the part you’re trying to get to

baggerman said:

The pierbon piece looks like a streetfighter subframe made out of aluminum (instead of cast iron). The Panigale dry wt. is called out 11 lbs less than a SF. The only real difference between the 2 bikes is the rear subframe and the fairings or lack of. And this is what 2/3 the weight of the stock pani part?

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I forgot to weigh it, I was having so much ‘fun’ trying to fit it…

I’d really like to get a handle on why the plastic doesn’t fit as I’m sure it should. Holes for bolts pretty much line up and I managed to route the cable for the lock but the frame stops the lower plastic cover from fitting.

spooky said:

I forgot to weigh it, I was having so much ‘fun’ trying to fit it…

I’d really like to get a handle on why the plastic doesn’t fit as I’m sure it should. Holes for bolts pretty much line up and I managed to route the cable for the lock but the frame stops the lower plastic cover from fitting.

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Break out the Dremel

I’ve looked at it again and played around with it a bit in the hope that I’m doing something daft with fitment but the only way it will fit is to remove some of the plastic from the lower cover that’s around the holes that the licence plate holder would attach to. That’s the part that is stopping it from fitting.

No idea why Andy didn’t have this issue, assuming he’d have told me if he did, being helpful and all that.

Not a particularly big deal but I am a bit surprised that this should be necessary as I was under the impression that this was designed to work with the OEM parts.

Oh well, aftermarket, etc.

That did the trick. Injunearring…



Ready to put it all back together!

I have no idea why, but I really like seeing the bike like this…


It’s also interesting learning how it goes together, although I prefer riding it to working on it.

Left side lined up:



Right side…



For ..... sake…

its the difference between just bolting things together and actually fitting something correctly..... lesson number 6.

andyb said:

its the difference between just bolting things together and actually fitting something correctly..... lesson number 6.

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It’s a bit harder to fit something correctly when the subframe doesn’t line up with the frame…

There’s enough flex to pull it into position but, call me old-fashioned, I think it should line up without having to be stressed to do so…

I get your point with some stuff but a subframe designed to go with a specific frame should directly line up and simply bolt together.

have you morphed into SD?

perhaps out of the hundreds they have made you have got the wrong one? Id send it back.

andyb said:

have you morphed into SD?

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So, to be clear, you don’t think you could or should have any reasonable expectation for a subframe designed and sold to fit a specific frame to have the holes in the right place to simply bolt on?

It’s not like this is a part designed for something else and you have to figure out how to adapt it to make it work - it’s meant to be for this specific purpose.

I don’t get your logic.

This clear enough?
Call them then tell them it doesn’t fit, stop bleeting on a forum and send it back then!

Or, Of course it’ll fit just like all the other parts of the puzzle you say didn’t fit… then fitted.

You like honesty! You are the problem here and your experience of doing this sort of thing … not the factory official supplier of parts and their years of history and quality!

andyb said:

stop bleeting on a forum

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I was not ‘bleeting’ (or even ‘bleating’). I was simply noting some issues, which were minor in nature, seeking to establish if others had these issues and checking for solutions before proceeding, rather than going at it like a bull in a china shop and potentially making a mistake or making the job harder than it needed to be. You seem to have a problem with people using the forum for advice instead of just figuring it out on their own.

andyb said:

Or, Of course it’ll fit just like all the other parts of the puzzle you say didn’t fit… then fitted

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And I said just a couple of posts prior that it will fit, which rather flies in the face of your above comment - it just had to be done with the frame stressed rather than simply lining up as it should. The lower cover fitted - once I had cut some plastic out of it… The subframe fitted, once I had stretched it sufficiently and held it there while putting the bolts in. So the parts didn’t really fit but they could easily be made to fit. Nothing particularly unusual but I expected something different, given their ‘years of history and quality’. I also don’t see why you have such a problem with me noting the issue and checking if it’s normal. You could have simply said ‘yeah, you need to hold it in position and it will be fine - perfectly normal and not an issue’. Instead you come back with your oft-repeated ‘its the difference between just bolting things together and actually fitting something correctly’. Super helpful for someone who, as you know, is doing this for the first time.

andyb said:

You are the problem here and your experience of doing this sort of thing

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Which is exactly why I was asking on the forum - to benefit from those who have experience with exactly this…

In the shared spirit of being honest, your responses are very often antagonistic and unhelpful, when you could instead be helpful and pass on your practical experience (in this case, of fitting this exact part which isn’t exactly something lots of people have experience with). That’s what I would do if someone was looking for help and I happened to have experience that would assist them, but I guess we’re all different.

All of the things I have done to the bike have been the first time I’ve attempted them. Almost like there’s a first time for everything… At least I’m attempting these things myself and trying to learn.

If you think people shouldn’t seek information, advice and assistance on a forum then I’m not really sure what you think a forum is for. It’s supposed to be a community of people with a shared interest that help each other where they can. Others in the thread have made some helpful comments about the parts they know about and I’m not sure why you take the approach that you do.

Ok, I think this is the final bit.

At the top front of the subframe is a hole on each side that has a bushing and this is where the screw goes on each side to secure the fuel tank around the middle.

I believe I will need to push the entire thing through based on what I’ve seen on the parts diagram. The rubber bushing seems to be one pice.

Does anyone have any tips on the best way to push this through and reuse it without destroying it?

Parts 25 and 16. I guess removing both of the parts 25 would make it easier if that’s possible?

I don't understand how you could resist taking that valve cover off. Ducati uses a couple of different versions of that rubber thing. You won't hurt it. A little lube in the hole always helps.

baggerman said:

I don't understand how you could resist taking that valve cover off. Ducati uses a couple of different versions of that rubber thing. You won't hurt it. A little lube in the hole always helps.

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So don’t try to remove the metal parts – just try to get a bit of lubrication in there and push it through?

Put a Allen bolt in it and push… bit of lube like wd40