Full Akra Titanium Exhaust Worth it for V4S?

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Superquadro 1299 said:
Pinwheel, if you're feeling the heat, then you are not riding fast enough. I find that the heat goes down when I ride faster.
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'Funny, I feel the heat more around 40 - 70 mph, just when you'd think the surrounding air would move the heat away, not funnel it towards you... But of course, the engine is also generating more heat the higher in the rpm range you go....
As for it being a "200+ hp bike, so you will surely feel the heat," that's nonsense. Several other bikes make this type of horsepower and they don't all have an uncomfortable level of heat transferred to the rider. In our case, its just the design of the engine, exhaust, and fairing, etc., that do.
 
Re heat; It is what it is, accept and manage it or move on. So many threads complaining about heat, all the big Pani's are hot from the 1199 onwards but one riders heat is anothers cooling zephyr. I for one have never been bothered by it and Ive done over 50,000ks on a 1299 and V4 but I rarely if ever ride without full gear. I know its a problem if you live in a hot place and wear jeans or shorts but maybe another hobby might work out better?
 
ducati851 said:
As for it being a "200+ hp bike, so you will surely feel the heat," that's nonsense. Several other bikes make this type of horsepower and they don't all have an uncomfortable level of heat transferred to the rider. In our case, its just the design of the engine, exhaust, and fairing, etc., that do.
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Agreed. I think it has a lot to do with the exhaust loop under the seat. I had a turbo gsxr 1000 that made 300 hp to the tire and didn’t put out nearly as much heat to the rider.
 
I don't know if that's apples to apples. An inline four has such a different layout. I think in the heat discussion, one could only compare the Panigale V4 to other V4 layouts.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
I don't know if that's apples to apples. An inline four has such a different layout. I think in the heat discussion, one could only compare the Panigale V4 to other V4 layouts.
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I’m not suggesting it’s apples to apples. I’m just observing it made an extra 100 whp and rode cooler. 😎
 
Fair enough but the Pani is mass centralized and is a V configuration, its apples and gronicles
 
I could be wrong, but for MY22 and MY23, the lowered Akra from the 1st generation is not an option.
 
Other than O2 sensor placement and number I can't think of a difference. There may be a special part number to compensate for that, I haven't checked.
 
What's different about the fairings? There's more vents in the lower and tank shape, but I can't think of anything else.
 
The double shotgun exhaust might be a little cooler than the underbelly. I wonder which exhaust type the WSBK team will run?
 
Akra is just good can’t a great. Well, it sounds weird that this gives you benefits about heat radiation. If you don’t care about how cool the exhaust sound then it's completely fine.
 
Between the start and current state of this thread anyone noticed the 2023 price increase across the board on bikes and accessories? That exhaust decision delay just cost ya 12% o_O
 
No exhaust is worth that much. It's not made of diamonds. Titanium or not. It's damn near the price of a 600 bike. I'd much rather have a second 600cc bike than some fancy pipes.....and this is comin from someone who has a full akra on his 1199. I thought 3k was a lot when i got mine but damn. This kinda BS would make me lose interest in ducati as a brand knowing that I'm a modding kinda guy.
 
double0 said:
No exhaust is worth that much. It's not made of diamonds. Titanium or not. It's damn near the price of a 600 bike. I'd much rather have a second 600cc bike than some fancy pipes.....and this is comin from someone who has a full akra on his 1199. I thought 3k was a lot when i got mine but damn. This kinda BS would make me lose interest in ducati as a brand knowing that I'm a modding kinda guy.
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Agreed. This and the push to lockout owner serviceability.
 

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