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Mine is in the shop getting a 24000k service,new dash,forks,valve cover gaskets,mufflers,and the mapping update have not had a chance to ride it.
 
Mine is in the shop getting a 24000k service,new dash,forks,valve cover gaskets,mufflers,and the mapping update have not had a chance to ride it.

Can you confirm whether there is a map update available for your bike?

I called my dealer this evening and they weren't aware of anything new being available. If there is one that is great, but I'll feel rather silly if I take my bike up to the dealer insisting they plug it in, only to discover there really isn't anything out.

Brad, when was the last time you had your bike at the dealer prior to having the map uploaded?
 
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Nothing new is out. I just talked to dealer. (Although I have a wiring upgrade or some crap to the instrument cluster, needing to be done, according to my VIN). That was prob an older upgrade. I had the one you are referring to done in Nov.

NOLA.
 
Can you confirm whether there is a map update available for your bike?

I called my dealer this evening and they weren't aware of anything new being available. If there is one that is great, but I'll feel rather silly if I take my bike up to the dealer insisting they plug it in, only to discover there really isn't anything out.

Brad, when was the last time you had your bike at the dealer prior to having the map uploaded?

12 Months ago for the mk V dash, and the last (quickshifter) update.
 
From my understanding the bike has the basic maps in it that work with the stock exhaust as it comes from factory.

Then when we put the Termis' on. (regardless of the incantation)
There are another set of supplementary maps that are sort of superimposed/over-ride the stock maps in order to make the fuelling/timming correct for the Termis'

This update I got I think is for the base line operational mapping in stock form.
It clearly changes the throttle operating algorithms, and has an effect on the EBC operation (which could merely be a side benefit and not directly targeted)

Fuelling is clearly altered, because the performance is better all round with a serious improvement in the mid range.
And the bike sounds louder with a more aggressive note/growl to it.

Just go and get it done;)


thanks for this i will go saturday (stealership is 15 min from me) and see if they have it and report back.
 
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Nothing new is out. I just talked to dealer. (Although I have a wiring upgrade or some crap to the instrument cluster, needing to be done, according to my VIN). That was prob an older upgrade. I had the one you are referring to done in Nov.

NOLA.

No, trust me it is a new update.
And that wiring update is for the left switch block supplementary wiring loom.
It goes in under the left inside wiring loom cover behind the left side fairing.

The update is the one that WAF was told about a couple of weeks ago.
My dealer tech didn't know about it either, as they hadn't received any email notification like they normally do.

It wasn't until the bike was connected to the DDS that it came up.
This is definitely the one that WAF was hoping for as a panacea to his throttle problems.
But somebody had subsequently debunked it in short order as a Furphy.

To be honest.
I wasn't expecting anything to come out of my enquiry.
But it doesn't hurt to ask;)

It's a revolutionary change.
And it eclipses anything to date.
The bike is literally transformed:)
 
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No, trust me it is a new update.
And that wiring update is for the left switch block supplementary wiring loom.
It goes in under the left inside wiring loom cover behind the left side fairing.

The update is the one that WAF was told about a couple of weeks ago.
My dealer tech didn't know about it either, as they hadn't received any email notification like they normally do.

It wasn't until the bike was connected to the DDS that it came up.
This is definitely the one that WAF was hoping for as a panacea to his throttle problems.
But somebody had subsequently debunked it in short order as a Furphy.

To be honest.
I wasn't expecting anything to come out of my enquiry.
But it doesn't hurt to ask;)

It's a revolutionary change.
And it eclipses anything to date.
The bike is literally transformed:)

Yup, dealer, who is connected to DNA, is wrong, no one on here has heard of it, and its a miracle cure"¦

Im gonna go with belated April 1st here.

NOLA
 
thanks for this i will go saturday (stealership is 15 min from me) and see if they have it and report back.

They'll have it alright.
It's on the DDS:)
So all dealers have access;)

The bike has to be plugged in first for it to come up as an "open" update.
I'm assuming it's not a product of a campaign at this stage.
It's something they're slipping through(low key) that everyone will ultimately get at their next service.

If I were a conspiracy theorist.
I would say they've been working on it to have in place, for when the earliest shipment of bikes theoretically come due for their first major service in the next couple of months, and or the riding season in the colder parts of the northern hemisphere.

Or it could be as simple, as the racing program has shown the original setup was causing too many unnecessary/costly crashes.
WAF and others have sort of alluded to that as being part of the problem, in the past.
Now they've got it sorted out for the racers.
They're going quicker as a result now, and seemingly much more competitive.
And we can get it, as a click of a button at the dealership as well:)

I tell you.
This update is confidence inspiring for how quick one can approach a corner, and for what you can do mid corner.
My trip home from the dealer is about 130 Kms.
I've tested it out on a great number of occasions, and under different circumstances:)

This is making a huge difference to how the bike behaves.
I'm now confidently carrying more speed into corners, than I would've dared to on yesterday morning without worrying about having the throttle/bike settled.
 
Yup, dealer, who is connected to DNA, is wrong, no one on here has heard of it, and its a miracle cure"¦

Im gonna go with belated April 1st here.

NOLA

It's a bit late for that now:rolleyes:

Oh well.
Carry on:D

Enjoy.
 
They'll have it alright.
It's on the DDS:)
So all dealers have access;)

The bike has to be plugged in first for it to come up as an "open" update.
I'm assuming it's not a product of a campaign at this stage.
It's something they're slipping through(low key) that everyone will ultimately get at their next service.

If I were a conspiracy theorist.
I would say they've been working on it to have in place, for when the earliest shipment of bikes theoretically come due for their first major service in the next couple of months, and or the riding season in the colder parts of the northern hemisphere.

Or it could be as simple, as the racing program has shown the original setup was causing too many unnecessary/costly crashes.
WAF and others have sort of alluded to that as being part of the problem, in the past.
Now they've got it sorted out for the racers.
They're going quicker as a result now, and seemingly much more competitive.
And we can get it, as a click of a button at the dealership as well:)

I tell you.
This update is confidence inspiring for how quick one can approach a corner, and for what you can do mid corner.
My trip home from the dealer is about 130 Kms.
I've tested it out on a great number of occasions, and under different circumstances:)

This is making a huge difference to how the bike behaves.
I'm now confidently carrying more speed into corners, than I would've dared to on yesterday morning without worrying about having the throttle/bike settled.

Then there is

"Your dealer missed it, you have no clue what you are talking about, and we have all had this update since October""¦.but then again, who knows.

:)

NOLA
 
No.
This matter has been covered way back in the day about the last lot of fuelling maps.

Maybe there's an update "ID number" for this but I didn't ask.
I was just thankful to be getting an update.

I only asked because WAF flagged it as being a possibility, and I'd seen somebody poo poo the idea after enquiring at his dealer about it, and being told it's a fairy tale or something.

So the last I knew of it, was that WAF is getting something redone at his dealer on the 8th April and he was going to follow up on it again.
Apparently after the 8th he was going to be certain.

I'm telling you here and now it's all go on the update:)

Thanks for the post brad.
Which dealer did you go to and what date. I am going to give them a call and speak to the service manager and get the detail on this update.

I had my indicator fix done on 5 February and no "holy grail" update then available.

So like everyone else on this forum would like to know more.
 
Thanks for the post brad.
Which dealer did you go to and what date. I am going to give them a call and speak to the service manager and get the detail on this update.

I had my indicator fix done on 5 February and no "holy grail" update then available.

So like everyone else on this forum would like to know more.

Nothing more to tell now.
I just call it the "Holy Grail" update because it's always been the single biggest bug bear with the bike from day one. But I've adapted and managed to work around it in the mean time while sort of resigning myself to the fact that it's virtually "a feature of the bike".

I've always had the impression that it's more problematic in sport mode.
So I always put it down to the algorithms they were applying.
I personally couldn't ever understand why they didn't get it sorted out before releasing the 1199 to market.
If I was DUCATI it wouldn't have happened that way. AT ALL.
Anyway, it's all history now:D

WAF has seemingly struggled the most on this forum to get on top of it.
I'm certain he'll be most pleasantly surprised on the 8th April when he gets his out for a run again:)
 
Nothing more to tell now.
I just call it the "Holy Grail" update because it's always been the single biggest bug bear with the bike from day one. But I've adapted and managed to work around it in the mean time while sort of resigning myself to the fact that it's virtually "a feature of the bike".

I've always had the impression that it's more problematic in sport mode.
So I always put it down to the algorithms they were applying.
I personally couldn't ever understand why they didn't get it sorted out before releasing the 1199 to market.
If I was DUCATI it wouldn't have happened that way. AT ALL.
Anyway, it's all history now:D

WAF has seemingly struggled the most on this forum to get on top of it.
I'm certain he'll be most pleasantly surprised on the 8th April when he gets his out for a run again:)

Which dealer and what date did you get this done ?

I am going to ring them to get the details. You may have missed my question right at the beginning of my post.

Update to the Update. OP has sent me a PM with some details of dealer so I will give them a call tomorrow.
 
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not saying you are wrong brand but when i asked my stealership about an upmap because of the sproket which i had done over a year ago they said NO. they also said that i am current so i dont know whats going on at all. the performance maps ( i was told) ducati , racing , evo ) are seperate from the other updates. so for example if you have a full system you have racing evo map. any other updates are separate from that.

They told me the same when I went to the 41t sprocket. When I showed them the letter we got last year about the upgrade, pricing and mapping to go with it they found there was a new map to go with it.

As for the racing and evo maps they are updated any time the baseline is updated. The map isn't stored on the drive itself, it is just the key that unlocks the map already on the ECU.
 
Well if there isn't an update Ducati will surely consider making one after everyone starts calling asking for one. LOL
 
When speaking with your local dealership, it may be helpful to ask specifically for the "Holy Grail Upmap." If they respond with a blank stare, simply reply with a wink and a nod.
 
They told me the same when I went to the 41t sprocket. When I showed them the letter we got last year about the upgrade, pricing and mapping to go with it they found there was a new map to go with it.

As for the racing and evo maps they are updated any time the baseline is updated. The map isn't stored on the drive itself, it is just the key that unlocks the map already on the ECU.

Yep that's my understanding as well:)
 

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