How it does, what it does (RapidBike)!!!

That is not the closed loop area ! closed loop area is below 19% throttle and below 6000rpm, the only time that area is touched when the bike is on dyno machine, ask me how i know it can be adjusted but out of all panigales we have seen, it is is area that stays around negative numbers .

EDIT: That area seems to be resticted on the completely stock bikes, we noted that on 2 completely stock 1199, 1 of them being Leon's if we had started the dyno run at about 4000 rpm during acceleration , the FI light would come of but would not have any effect on bikes performance if we had started at 6000 rpm we would see nothing, this wouldn't happen on the bikes with termi slip on and upmap, I had also road tested another panigale right after a dyno run tried to duplicate the Fi situation but could't do it... It is a Dyno thing and only on stock bikes , here are some photos from our RapidBike party

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19% throttle and around 5000rpm = garbage zone

Gecko said:

Thank you Sutki!
Checked his website, it seems he's familiar with tuneboy.
Are you going to install RB yourself?
I am very interessted for your feedback!

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Hi. Get it today, ( 5 days to USA-swizerland!) Thanks Yaman!
Was very easy put it in (less 2 hours).
Going to track this sunday, let you know the diffrence...

I'd like some feedback from members who have purchased this in the form of dyno graphs and anecdotal (seat of pants) experience especially regarding throttle response as the group buy is tempting me.

Jasinner,
There are tons of user reviews on this product on the forum. The RB module takes care of the surging that we've all experienced, and makes the bikes smoother. With my stock exhaust, I got a 7hp bump up top. I haven't run it with the new slip ons and the new map. We are taking the bikes to the bike night in Thursday, so maybe I'll dyno it then.

jasinner said:

I'd like some feedback from members who have purchased this in the form of dyno graphs and anecdotal (seat of pants) experience especially regarding throttle response as the group buy is tempting me.

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Here you go: http://ducati1199.com/mechanical-technical/18082-where-fit-rapid-bike-module-3.html

Post #26 is where I start my review after just getting it installed and several other RapidBike users chime in with their similar responses.

http://ducati1199.com/mechanical-technical/18082-where-fit-rapid-bike-module-5.html

Post #44 is where I posted a dyno graph showing the midrange gain of 11 rwhp after installing the RapidBike race with no other mods.

I had not cleaned my MWR HE air filter in 4,000 miles, and it was seriously gummed up, causing me to lose a lot of top end, which shows the difference up top. I hope to go to the same Cycle Gear Bike Night that Leon mentions above this Thursday to have another back-to-back dyno where the RapidBike Race is completely bypassed. This will compare my 2012 with Termi slip-on and MWR HE filter with just the Termi slip-on map, against the RapidBike Race module with about 1,500 miles of street riding "learning" on the system. Stay tuned!

I have the Microtec on my 2010 1198s and had it installed at the DucShop in Atlanta GA, it made a big diffrence on the 1198, but it took 6 hrs of dyno tuning to make it work properly. I had Yaman @ CyclePro install the RB-race on my 2013 1199s which took a couple of hours and after loading the new mapping and a little tweeking I noticed a HUGE difference on throttle response, no more lurching or surging at all, the added 6HP at the top was just a plus. I took it from sea level in Florida to 6,000ft in the mountains of NC and it only took maybe 30 miles before it had adjusted itself perfectly. I would have to say it is the single best item I've added to my bike with maybe the exception of the BST Carbon wheels which I also purchased from CyclePro. Thanks Yaman

Not sure what I can add, other than to mirror some of the experience of others. I have RapidBike Race on my ZX-10R, and the quickshift is amazing. You can tune it to the engage at certain pressures, measured in kilograms.

I am currently looking (or beginning to search) for a Panigale, mainly because of the RapidBike system. I had ridden a few 1199s, and frankly, compared to the power and spot-on fueling of the Ninja, I didn't like them. My buddy Will's 1199s had such a stumbling, bumbling hole in the torque curve that it made the bike not enjoyable for me to ride.

While dyno runs, post-RapidBike showed the inherent torque dip of a large-bore L2, the fueling is so spot you don't "feel" it unless you are wide open. It's an amazing before/after different. Additionally, with a full Termi and the RapidBike, his 1199S won a recent dyno shoot out, on a 100 degree day with 108 degrees recorded in the dyno, his Panigale put the BMWs (and my Ninja) to shame with an impressive, heat-soaked 181 hp pull.

This was just emailed to me from one of our dealers South Africa, name of the shop is MOTO UNO and here is the web site [URL="http://www.motounoracing.co.za/"[/URL]

I am just going to copy/paste from their e-mail and let you decide......
hello Yaman.

how are you doing ?

Here i send you graph from dyno .


Red is 1199s slip ons with Rapid after 2 days.

Blue is 1199s Full system termignoni,sprint filter .PCV and auto tune. tuned already

Green is 1199s Full system Termignoni and racing air filter. Rapid bike just fitted no self mapping yet .


red run was done about 10 days earlier .all runs done at same dyno .


looks good

what do you say ?

here is the other e-mail!
This is the 1199s with and without rapid,
red is with RB after 3 days and about 200 km.
slip ons ,std air filter .
the same bike a sent graph earlier.

he is very happy !!

I want to see the Full termi with RB already tuned (Auto tune I guess). should be superior to the slip ons +RB shouldnt it?

pedrin said:

I want to see the Full termi with RB already tuned (Auto tune I guess). should be superior to the slip ons +RB shouldnt it?

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We had one customer had 179 or 182 at the rear wheel sae hp. I will try to find the dyno chart....

Yeah, I care more about the middle range, any chance of a before and after?

Dyno Comparison - RapidBike Race self-tuning vs. Termignoni Slip On Up-Map

Just got back from the Orlando Cycle Gear bike night. Horst Performance was there doing dyno runs with his factory-supported Dynojet 250ix (he was the long-time dyno instructor at MMI in Central FL). I had my 2012 1199 run several times to get a very clear picture of what the RapidBike adds performance-wise over just using the supplied Termignoni Up-Map.

Below is the results of a back-to-back dyno run, where the Red Line is a dyno run with the RapidBike Race fuel controller module enabled, and the Blue Line is a dyno run with a special bypass plug that reverts the ECU back to its pre-RapidBike state of tune, which in this case is the OEM ECU with the Termignoni Slip On Up-Map and latest update.

My bike has about 10,000 miles and the power mods are an MWR HE filter, Termignoni Slip Ons, Termignoni Up-Map, and RapidBike Race module with about 3,000 miles of street riding where it has constantly "learned" and "optimized" the AFR curve.

The first image includes the horsepower curves with AFR ratios below. The second image focuses on the horsepower curves, with the 10 rwhp gain called out to give a sense of scale to the differences in the curves.




The absolute numbers are not the story here, as it was quite hot and humid out tonight. Instead, this was done to show the absolute difference between using only the Termignoni Up-Map, and then the Rapidbike Race module with some time for it to self-optimize and further improve performance.

This is obviously a massive improvement, and required no manual "tuning" by a dyno operator to achieve these results. The RapidBike Race module is simply using signals received from the OEM narrow-band O2 sensors to make real-time adjustments to the AFR curve and keep it as close to stoichiometric as possible. Of course, once you do a dyno run like this you can make fine adjustments to optimize even further which is what I will do now to hopefully make even more gains in the midrange.

This is the difference between using only the relatively generic Termignoni Slip On Up-Map, which appears overly rich since it has to work with a range of 1199's in the field at all altitudes/weather conditions/fuels, and with the RapidBike Race system that tunes your bike with your mods in your conditions. I believe I would have gotten the same results had I not used the Termignoni Up-Map but I decided to leave it in when the RapidBike Race module was installed.

looks awesome!

Aweome results Jeff. I wish I could have ran my bike, but after hearing and seeing all the things that needed to be done to get a pull, I didn't feel like pulling the plastics off the bike. You may want to include the bulletin about dynoing the Panigale so that others know about it as well. Here is a pic of Jeff's bike in the dyno.

Not to hijack the thread but great meeting you guys last night! Very interesting results.

danamite14 said:

Not to hijack the thread but great meeting you guys last night! Very interesting results.

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Likewise Dan!

I did put the Rapid Bike on two bikes and both run perfect, one of the bikes was just simply not tunable at all since it's a build motor, the Rapid Bike unit fixed that problem now.

Rapid Bike has my vote!

My Rapid Bike Race just installed today. I need to run it for 200 miles and I will be back with some feed back.......