How much oil is your 15R using?

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Just checked mine and in the last 2100kms majority of it in the hills or track days it's used, burnt whatever you want to call it 1.2L.

I know a couple of guys with the 13-14R's and I had the 14R myself and they didn't use this much oil, the last model used a bit but mine used about half what the new one does and I abused my last one, my new one has had a much easier life. Only know a couple of guys with the 15R's around here, we only have 3-4 in the whole state but they seem to be going through a lot as well. One of my mates his went through 2L in 1700kms. Which is quite a bit. Granted he did a few more track days than I did.

How much are yours chewing through?
 
The 15 bikes have a two ring piston they most likely will use a bit of oil the amount you have mentioned does not sound excessive . My 13 has the two ring piston as well and will use a bit of oil .
My Desmosedici would use oil as well its the nature of what is essentially a race motor .
 
.5 ltr max since first service. Just under 5000km now. Commuter and weekend track bike.
 
Yeah, the beauty of an exotic italian = high maintenance!

As the gentleman already said, two ring pistons. It's normal and you do have to keep an eye on it.

I found most of my losses were after a track day, generally at full tilt all day, but wasn't unexpected.

2000 miles covered and used about 1.4 litre, maybe give or take a little.
 
How many rings on the 14R? I changed the oil every 3k miles and it didn't burn any oil. The bike currently has 11,000+ miles.
 
A lot of it has to do with how you broke in the motor... did you baby it for a 1000 miles like the owners manual says? If so that is the problem... Manufacturers always tell yo to not go over a certain rpm until you get 1000 miles or so.. blah blah... I NEVER break in a new bike real slow.. I ride it like i'm going to ride it after the 50 to 100 miles.(when properly warmed up of course). I have no oil loss I can measure anyway. I broke in my brank new 2100 ZX10 that way also my 2104 ZX1400 and the Panigale.. None of them burn oil..

I once read a report by a man that had built over 300 race bike engines and he showed pictures of pistons from bikes that had been broken in "according to the manual" and they ALLall had evidence of blow by around the rings..With modern mettalurgy you no longer have to break in the bikes real gingerly like in the old days when the cylinder walls metal was much softer than the rings.

Newer bikes have all kinds of new/ herder more durable metal linings and coatings etc and are much harder. They NEED to be run harder to break in properly..
 
speedy14 said:
A lot of it has to do with how you broke in the motor... did you baby it for a 1000 miles like the owners manual says? If so that is the problem... Manufacturers always tell yo to not go over a certain rpm until you get 1000 miles or so.. blah blah... I NEVER break in a new bike real slow.. I ride it like i'm going to ride it after the 50 to 100 miles.(when properly warmed up of course). I have no oil loss I can measure anyway. I broke in my brank new 2100 ZX10 that way also my 2104 ZX1400 and the Panigale.. None of them burn oil..

I once read a report by a man that had built over 300 race bike engines and he showed pictures of pistons from bikes that had been broken in "according to the manual" and they ALLall had evidence of blow by around the rings..With modern mettalurgy you no longer have to break in the bikes real gingerly like in the old days when the cylinder walls metal was much softer than the rings.

Newer bikes have all kinds of new/ herder more durable metal linings and coatings etc and are much harder. They NEED to be run harder to break in properly..
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Don't start this .... again . It's not true you have no proof of that so why even post it .
You are comparing 4 IL bikes with a two ringed massive twin cylinder engine with light weight pistons .
 
sexparty said:
Just checked mine and in the last 2100kms majority of it in the hills or track days it's used, burnt whatever you want to call it 1.2L.

I know a couple of guys with the 13-14R's and I had the 14R myself and they didn't use this much oil, the last model used a bit but mine used about half what the new one does and I abused my last one, my new one has had a much easier life. Only know a couple of guys with the 15R's around here, we only have 3-4 in the whole state but they seem to be going through a lot as well. One of my mates his went through 2L in 1700kms. Which is quite a bit. Granted he did a few more track days than I did.

How much are yours chewing through?
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We have a race motor in our bike. Expect it...keep an eye on it. You'll be fine.
 
14R Bought mine used with 2800 miles on her. It was down at least 1L when I got her and changed the oil.
 
It's only the '15 R that has the two ring pistons. Previous to that it never really used any
 
2015R - mine was flushing it thru faster than a sedici could use it - new piston, new rings, and new cylinder sleeve supposedly has fixed it...a little time will tell :rolleyes:
 

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speedy14 said:
A lot of it has to do with how you broke in the motor... did you baby it for a 1000 miles like the owners manual says? If so that is the problem... Manufacturers always tell yo to not go over a certain rpm until you get 1000 miles or so.. blah blah... I NEVER break in a new bike real slow.. I ride it like i'm going to ride it after the 50 to 100 miles.(when properly warmed up of course). I have no oil loss I can measure anyway. I broke in my brank new 2100 ZX10 that way also my 2104 ZX1400 and the Panigale.. None of them burn oil..

I once read a report by a man that had built over 300 race bike engines and he showed pictures of pistons from bikes that had been broken in "according to the manual" and they ALLall had evidence of blow by around the rings..With modern mettalurgy you no longer have to break in the bikes real gingerly like in the old days when the cylinder walls metal was much softer than the rings.

Newer bikes have all kinds of new/ herder more durable metal linings and coatings etc and are much harder. They NEED to be run harder to break in properly..
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Thanks for the concern but I work in the industry and this is my second R.
I know how to break a motor in and ride all my bikes as normal from the get go.

The reason it uses a lot of oil is because it's a race bike but more specifically the pistons and less rings like others have said. I know this, it doesn't bother me, I'm just curious how much oil other riders 15R's are using and from what type of riding.
 
wilkson said:
Don't start this .... again . It's not true you have no proof of that so why even post it .
You are comparing 4 IL bikes with a two ringed massive twin cylinder engine with light weight pistons .
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So I have no proof huh! Well.. MY bike was broken in according to the following procedures and mine doesn't burn any oil...! Neither does my other 2013 ZX14 or 2011 ZX10R (track bike that has been run hard since day one)

Here is a great article and some VISUAL proof.. Just scroll through it and look at pictures of pistons from the 'factory manual break in" This guy has rebuilt over 300 motors and he knows his stuff.. MUCH more that you do evidently..

Read it and learn...:cool:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
 
You have an S, not an R. Different motor, different pistons. If all the 15 and 16R owners post the same thing and don't see it as a problem, clearly their brake-in methods are irrelevant since I am a 100% sure not everyone breaks in their bikes the same way.

Trade in your S for an R, break it in the way you think is right and come back n report. When your R does the same ...., sell the bike and stick with I4's.
 
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speedy14 said:
So I have no proof huh! Well.. MY bike was broken in according to the following procedures and mine doesn't burn any oil...! Neither does my other 2013 ZX14 or 2011 ZX10R (track bike that has been run hard since day one)

Here is a great article and some VISUAL proof.. Just scroll through it and look at pictures of pistons from the 'factory manual break in" This guy has rebuilt over 300 motors and he knows his stuff.. MUCH more that you do evidently..

Read it and learn...:cool:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Yup Ducati Master tech told me before I bought my R yesterday that the two ring piston on the Panigale R was going to drink more oil than the S.
 
Any type of race engine is going to require more upkeep. I don't care what anyone says. It's the nature of the beast; cars or motorcycles.
 
My old built out CBR1000rr required the oil to be topped off after about every 3 sessions on a trackday. Just one of those things with racing pistons like that.
 

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