Is Vandeamon made in China

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There was a long winded thread a while back about vandeamon where I posted some stuff about materials and sourcing and what not. Now someone is saying the pipes are Chinese. Did the owner of vandeamon on that post BS everyone or are the pipes made in Australia with material from Japan as was stated?

Does anyone have any info? The quality of the pipes and the welding looks top notch at least the ones I have seen in person but something does seem a little “Asian”.
 
Thought it was funny how the person who made that claim deleted his post and bailed but you already quoted his comment before he did
 
....... ......, I couldn't even spell the name right. Vandemon. Need coffee
 
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You my friend, are an absolute wnker. I asked you in private to delete a post containing my quote which I had removed and you made it a public issue. I made a comment in public before thinking, not realising that it wasn't the poster making the statement, but the company itself.

BUT seeing as you ...... bags want to push the point





Hope you're happy!
 
Let me also clear something up. I am not saying they're Chinese to insinuate that they are poor quality. Most manufacturers have some or all sort of the manufacturing process in China. I was simply correcting a statement in another post....and now it's blown up.
 
You my friend, are an absolute wnker. I asked you in private to delete a post containing my quote which I had removed and you made it a public issue. I made a comment in public before thinking, not realising that it wasn't the poster making the statement, but the company itself.

BUT seeing as you ...... bags want to push the point





Hope you're happy!
Hey .... Head, first of all, .... you and second you posted on a public forum in the first place. Why didn’t you just post the link in your first post? You started all this. ....... own it .... bag.
 
Not getting into an argument with a keyboard warrior. Point is, I am correct about the exhaust. I asked politley for you to remove something I had deleted, and you, like a child.....decided to be difficult.

Have a nice day :)
 
No, you joined a chat board and posted nothing. Then you publicly posted that Vandemon was Chinese, your only ....... post so obviously you had an agenda.

in my post I never mentioned you at all. I said “someone” could have been anyone. You had an agenda, to make a statement which you did and it looks to be correct so what’s the big deal with wanting to retract it?

With regard to Vandemon, looks like they in several occasions misled their customers. To everyone who bought the exhaust raving about the “great deal” vs Akra, Termi etc, we’ll there ya have it. It’s a nice exhaust but I’d be a bit pissed.
 
I bought a Vandemon slip on, didnt catch covid either. I did buy it because I thought it was made here in Australia.
 
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Here's the deal. A while back there was a VD post. I got on their a bit skeptical because of the price. I simply asked the guys from VD where their exhaust was made. Instead of telling us they came on this very chat board and sidestepped the question. I then simply asked if they had traceable paperwork for their material. Akra, does. Termi does, Arrow does, Storm does, VD, they gave us some "proprietary" business confidentiality mumbo jumbo. Paul got a bit touchy and said for me to basically STFU, VD doesn't owe you anything. How about now Paul? Anyhow, looks like Vanhool (.... you could have at least changed the name a bit better) is the "real" mfg of the Vandemon exhaust. So is VD just reselling VH exhaust? Don't know. Sure looks like it. They really don't say anywhere in their verbiage that they actually "manufacture" the systems like cut, bend and weld tubes in house but they sure as .... don't like questions about sourcing or anything else that alludes to the products origin.

So did they dupe people into thinking they were buying a Ti system made in Aus? I guess that depends on what the guys who bought the systems think. Being led to believe, and being vague are different. The facts are that the system was pitched as a great deal for a Ti system from Aus. The owners came on this board and boasted about their business and business history but never really answered or even addresses the "China" question so yes I believe since the question was asked and they did nothing to clarify it that yes, they were pretty sure people were buying the systems thinking they were made in Aus. Did you really think that for some reason a pipe fabricated by a small shop in Aus was going to be half the price of an a comparable system? Ok. Looks like you didn't get a good deal on an Aus made Ti exhaust. You got a regular deal on a Chinese exhaust. Nuff said.

The pipes look great. The materials look excellent. The welds are about perfect in form and function. Full weld penetration throughout. The fit looks to be excellent. Is it a good exhaust for 2K, yes, It looks to be. Can you tell its Chinese? Yes you can. The carbon shield is a dead give away as are the fasteners in general (safety wire holes are poorly finished and jagged) and the general look of the cans. The shield is poorly cut and fitted. Details, one thing the Chinese just cant seem to hide. Overall, its a great system for the price. Now I did recently purchase one of these pipes for a project and have taken possession of the system so my observations were from that system. I also have systems from Storm, Akra, Zard and Arrow so I have something to compare. The "Vandehool" compared to the other mfg looks top notch so I'm not pissed. The damn thing was 2k who gives a ..... Sketchy marketing with a bit of deflection, Maybe, I guess the Vandehoolians, can chime in and clarify if they want.
 
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Here's the deal. A while back there was a VD post. I got on their a bit skeptical because of the price. I simply asked the guys from VD where their exhaust was made. Instead of telling us they came on this very chat board and sidestepped the question. I then simply asked if they had traceable paperwork for their material. Akra, does. Termi does, Arrow does, Storm does, VD, they gave us some "proprietary" business confidentiality mumbo jumbo. Paul got a bit touchy and said for me to basically STFU, VD doesn't owe you anything. How about now Paul? Anyhow, looks like Vanhool (.... you could have at least changed the name a bit better) is the "real" mfg of the Vandemon exhaust. So is VD just reselling VH exhaust? Don't know. Sure looks like it. They really don't say anywhere in their verbiage that they actually "manufacture" the systems like cut, bend and weld tubes in house but they sure as .... don't like questions about sourcing or anything else that alludes to the products origin.

So did they dupe people into thinking they were buying a Ti system made in Aus? I guess that depends on what the guys who bought the systems think. Being led to believe, and being vague are different. The facts are that the system was pitched as a great deal for a Ti system from Aus. The owners came on this board and boasted about their business and business history but never really answered or even addresses the "China" question so yes I believe since the question was asked and they did nothing to clarify it that yes, they were pretty sure people were buying the systems thinking they were made in Aus. Did you really think that for some reason a pipe fabricated by a small shop in Aus was going to be half the price of an a comparable system? Ok. Looks like you didn't get a good deal on an Aus made Ti exhaust. You got a regular deal on a Chinese exhaust. Nuff said.

The pipes look great. The materials look excellent. The welds are about perfect in form and function. Full weld penetration throughout. The fit looks to be excellent. Is it a good exhaust for 2K, yes, It looks to be. Can you tell its Chinese? Yes you can. The carbon shield is a dead give away as are the fasteners and the general look of the cans. The shield is poorly cut and fitted. Details, one thing the Chinese just cant seem to hide. Overall, its a great system for the price. Now I did recently purchase one of these pipes for a project and have taken possession of the system so my observations were from that system. I also have systems from Storm, Akra, Zard and Arrow so I have something to compare. The "Vandehool" compared to the other mfg looks top notch so I'm not pissed. The damn thing was 2k who gives a ..... Sketchy marketing with a bit of deflection, Maybe, I guess the Vandehoolians, can chime in and clarify if they want.
At the end of the day I got what I paid for and I'm happy with it. Thanks for the details
 
At some point, In time we were saying negative things about Japanese products and today I have a tool box drawer full of Mitutoyo measuring devices sharing equal space with the Starrett stuff. I go all out to do a “no China” house. We actually don’t have much.

There are a few top shelf clothing Mfg here in the US (shameless plug for Kitanica and Origin) and we have an EU Bosche kitchen, laundry room etc. definitely do not have any Chinese tools. We even have US made dog toys. I just can’t stand junk and China makes junk and they don’t care.

I’ll use the exhaust for the project but I’m not putting it on “my” bike regardless and that has to do more with “I don’t know WTF it is”. Has it actually been tuned and engineered? are the runner lengths actually correct to balance the cylinders? do they actually have legit performance graphs? or is it a bunch of Ti welded together.

Remember we are dealing with a country of origin that exemplifies deception and now we have a sales and marketing arm following the same path. Does anyone have any real data on these things?
 

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