Just saw the 1299 full Akrapovic system at my dealers.

Trauma · Mar 21, 2015

It is coming with one because being sold through Ducati now - heck, they even provided one for the slips.

jogy · Mar 21, 2015

yes, for good reason, the slips are also very different from the OEM cans....also no cats and also different layout.

topolino · Mar 21, 2015

jogy said:
And why does the DP full Akra for the 1299 comes with an up-map to activate a specific mapping for this exhaust?

Because the design is very different from stock, no flapper valve, no catalytic converters and a completely different layout of the cans (absorbtion instead of reflection principle)

This is similar to the full termi system on the 1199 which also came with OEM up-map or was driven by many with custom/specific mapping.

Of course you can drive with the stock map (as you could it on the 1199), but this is far from optimal to do so from my understanding.

My Akra system did not come with any map, but if you are a competent dealer you can still "activate" the up map in the system. My dash reads "racing evo" on start, indicating that the system is on line but with no specific map added. The bike was tuned to the Akras from the get go. Custom map loaded into the ECU by Moto Rapido. These guys know a thing or two about the Panigale having prepped and maintained their RS bike for a certain Jakob Smyrz in the BSB series.

lee25racing · Mar 21, 2015

Isn't 'Racing Evo' on startup indicating the map for the full system is loaded?

bp7178 · Mar 21, 2015

I thought it was just a Termi up-map thing.

double0 · Mar 21, 2015

The maps are already loaded into the ecu. The upmap stick simply unlocks the map that's already there.

bp7178 · Mar 21, 2015

I wish Tuneboy could hack their way into the whole "racing evo" display thing.

bradp51 · Mar 21, 2015

jogy said:
And why does the DP full Akra for the 1299 comes with an up-map to activate a specific mapping for this exhaust?

Because the design is very different from stock, no flapper valve, no catalytic converters and a completely different layout of the cans (absorbtion instead of reflection principle)

This is similar to the full termi system on the 1199 which also came with OEM up-map or was driven by many with custom/specific mapping.

Of course you can drive with the stock map (as you could it on the 1199), but this is far from optimal to do so from my understanding.

Good thing I had mine custom tuned then.

Mutt1979 · Mar 23, 2015

This just arrived, but note the exhaust.....

This is the homologated Akra, as seen on the SL. Somewhat different to the Akra EVO system!! Think I prefer the Evo system if I'm honest........

(sorry, no more pics just yet, this is the only one the dealer sent!)

jogy · Mar 23, 2015

Mutt1979 said:
This just arrived, but note the exhaust.....

View attachment 12760

This is the homologated Akra, as seen on the SL. Somewhat different to the Akra EVO system!! Think I prefer the Evo system if I'm honest........

(sorry, no more pics just yet, this is the only one the dealer sent!)

But it was clearly visible in all official images that the Panigale R comes with the SL Akra cans and pipes, including catalysers and flapper valve (thats a requirement by law).

Gecko · Mar 23, 2015

jogy said:
But it was clearly visible in all official images that the Panigale R comes with the SL Akra cans and pipes, including catalysers and flapper valve (thats a requirement by law).

What's the contradiction? The SL came both with the homologated cans including the flapper-valve y-piece and the open akra system...

The Avidmoto · Mar 23, 2015

Mutt1979 said:
This just arrived, but note the exhaust.....

View attachment 12760

This is the homologated Akra, as seen on the SL. Somewhat different to the Akra EVO system!! Think I prefer the Evo system if I'm honest........

(sorry, no more pics just yet, this is the only one the dealer sent!)

I would prefer the Evo system as well but with 205 crank hp and near $4k for slip ons...I can live without it!

topolino · Mar 23, 2015

lee25racing said:
Isn't 'Racing Evo' on startup indicating the map for the full system is loaded?

Yes and no. Which system you have fitted is not known to the ECU. The assumption is that if you see this display it is the generic map designed to work with the full Termignoni system, but equally you can overlay a custom map, or change parameters as is the case with my own bike. Don't ask me how. All I know is that MR have done this to a number of machines. It may well be a series of modifications to the generic full Termi up-map, but it is tailored to the Akras they fitted.

Mutt1979 · Mar 23, 2015

jogy said:
But it was clearly visible in all official images that the Panigale R comes with the SL Akra cans and pipes, including catalysers and flapper valve (thats a requirement by law).

Yeah, I got that

Just my opinion, the EVO system was nicer looking, had it on my 2014 R too. The stock system should make it easier for track day noise testing though

However, if a racing kit exists for the SL, I would hope something similar will appear for the R.

acowsik · Mar 24, 2015

Mutt1979 said:
However, if a racing kit exists for the SL, I would hope something similar will appear for the R.

There are just the Akra race cans available for the R (part number 96480891A) priced at $3800.. the full system with the header pipes and race cans applies only for the 1299 and 1299S

80shilling · Mar 31, 2015

A quick update on the pricing; basically, my Sales guys was full of you know what.. Today, I was told by the parts department that they "priced it wrong" and they want $4,995.00 for the system, despite the fact that I paid for it already. Not freaking happy and will basically get my money back.. I'm not paying $5k + CA sales tax for an exhaust on general principle. I will stick with stock and then have the cans cored, or the cats cored if I decide I want more sound.

jogy · Mar 31, 2015

80shilling said:
A quick update on the pricing; basically, my Sales guys was full of you know what.. Today, I was told by the parts department that they "priced it wrong" and they want $4,995.00 for the system, despite the fact that I paid for it already. Not freaking happy and will basically get my money back.. I'm not paying $5k + CA sales tax for an exhaust on general principle. I will stick with stock and then have the cans cored, or the cats cored if I decide I want more sound.

That's the official US-Retail price for the DP full Akra system for 1299. Why don't you buy a full Akra for the 1199 in the free aftermarket, it is exept the up-map-key and the DP Logo exactly the same as the DP Akra - and you'll get it much cheaper! Specific mapping can be solved by Rapidbike or Tuneboy with a customised dyno tune.

80shilling · Mar 31, 2015

jogy said:
That's the official US-Retail price for the DP full Akra system for 1299. Why don't you buy a full Akra for the 1199 in the free aftermarket, it is exept the up-map-key and the DP Logo exactly the same as the DP Akra - and you'll get it much cheaper! Specific mapping can be solved by Rapidbike or Tuneboy with a customised dyno tune.

I had been led to believe that the headers on the 1299 were larger diameter than the 1199 and consequently the Akra was specific to the model? If I'm wrong, that makes me VERY happy to hear.

Cheers.

jogy · Mar 31, 2015

80shilling said:
I had been led to believe that the headers on the 1299 were larger diameter than the 1199 and consequently the Akra was specific to the model? If I'm wrong, that makes me VERY happy to hear.

Cheers.

I exactly asked this question to TJ (who is product manager at Ducati in Italy), he confirmed that the DP Akra for the 1299 has a diameter of 60mm, which is identical to the full Akra for 1199:

http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1299/20548-first-1299-review-5.html

80shilling · Mar 31, 2015

jogy said:
I exactly asked this question to TJ (who is product manager at Ducati in Italy), he confirmed that the DP Akra for the 1299 has a diameter of 60mm, which is identical to the full Akra for 1199:

http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1299/20548-first-1299-review-5.html

You Sir, have made my day. Thank you.

Just saw the 1299 full Akrapovic system at my dealers.

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