I did a few canyon runs breaking it in and stayed under 7-8 and was surprised out how fast one could fly using torque.
had no problem running out of tire
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I did a few canyon runs breaking it in and stayed under 7-8 and was surprised out how fast one could fly using torque.
had no problem running out of tire
Hahahahahahahaha!!! Love it when guys say "I ride the bike"... Dude, that thing will man handle you into the ozone if you take a simple wrong step. The 1199 is hard core and while a blessed piece of soulful machine, it is every bit a monster as it looks.
They are not selling smaller bikes. They are telling the honest truth. You can see it at racetracks even. Riding these beasts at speed is a challenge and even the best racers and riders in the world say so. On the street, you aren't using very much of it's potential and you certainly aren't riding it. That insinuates that you are capable of using every ounce of it's ability and truthfully, I don't think there are very few people on here that can truthfully say that.
The 899 works better as a street bike for so many different reasons. As well as on the track.
Once thing to note that they eluded to is that the 899's gearing is not well setup for a long straight or longer course. The gearing is very short and I think had they changed the gearing for track use, the GSXR would have fallen easily.
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Here is the write up of the review.
http://pressbank.ducatipress.com/EvernoteResources/cc3b78d1-2242-488c-817a-d95fe2ac8bff.pdf
I'm glad to see Ducati hit the mark with this model by retaining much of the 1199's charm while giving it a slightly more tamed personality.
http://pressbank.ducatipress.com/EvernoteResources/cc3b78d1-2242-488c-817a-d95fe2ac8bff.pdf
I'm glad to see Ducati hit the mark with this model by retaining much of the 1199's charm while giving it a slightly more tamed personality.
Sure they are.
Your sounding like their next customer, as you have abviously swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker.
Dont think so
Challenge my ...! its freakin blast is what it is.
Ya your right, im walking next to it
Hey whats the red light on my dash always blinking for in the canyon?
Dont be a ......
I never said that.
Look if you think the little expensive bike is a better choice, just remember, its YOUR choice not mine. Been there done that with 3 years on a 848.
I honestly thought the 1199 would be much faster then it really is. makes more noise then the 848 and its hotter, but 0-100 mph your lucky if the 1199 would be a bike length ahead, now 3rd gear is another story alltogether and its not often my bike redlines 3rd or 4rth, but it does. Thats where you really notice th extra HP.
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Hey outhouse... I own an 1199. I love the bike and have quite a bit of seat time on the machine.
I just love how people like you seem to think your badasses and ride hard and know how the small bikes couldn't DARE be as good. You spent how many years on a smaller bike? Cool. I suspect then of course, you're the fastest guy to have ever ridden one?
I know plenty of riders that have been on big bikes, small bikes and everything in between. Doesn't make them amazing riders nor experts.
My mom has been driving for 50 years. She's not a race car driver.
And, since you like to belittle others, lets do a track day and see how that pans out. I can also promise that just because you can hit the rev limiter on your bike, won't make you fast.
I just love how people like you seem to think your badasses and ride hard and know how the small bikes couldn't DARE be as good. You spent how many years on a smaller bike? Cool. I suspect then of course, you're the fastest guy to have ever ridden one?
I know plenty of riders that have been on big bikes, small bikes and everything in between. Doesn't make them amazing riders nor experts.
My mom has been driving for 50 years. She's not a race car driver.
And, since you like to belittle others, lets do a track day and see how that pans out. I can also promise that just because you can hit the rev limiter on your bike, won't make you fast.
a lot of people prefer a smaller bike on the track and the 899 could be the perfect weapon .
Riding a 1l bike hard is a challenge and it sounds like the 899 could be the perfect weapon for poise and power i was actually surprised it beat the 675r as for me thats almost the perfect track weapon whereas the 1199 can be too much bike at times and i find myself losing my line as a result.
But glad to know there is one person on the forum who seems to never have this issue.
Riding a 1l bike hard is a challenge and it sounds like the 899 could be the perfect weapon for poise and power i was actually surprised it beat the 675r as for me thats almost the perfect track weapon whereas the 1199 can be too much bike at times and i find myself losing my line as a result.
But glad to know there is one person on the forum who seems to never have this issue.
Hey outhouse... I own an 1199. I love the bike and have quite a bit of seat time on the machine.
I just love how people like you seem to think your badasses and ride hard and know how the small bikes couldn't DARE be as good. You spent how many years on a smaller bike? Cool. I suspect then of course, you're the fastest guy to have ever ridden one?
I know plenty of riders that have been on big bikes, small bikes and everything in between. Doesn't make them amazing riders nor experts.
My mom has been driving for 50 years. She's not a race car driver.
And, since you like to belittle others, lets do a track day and see how that pans out. I can also promise that just because you can hit the rev limiter on your bike, won't make you fast.
Said don't be a ....... And ive seen your pics.
I never claimed my skill level or how good or not I ride. I only stated I ride mine.
That doesn't make me Joe know it all like you. And if you do have your racing lic, how you doing in your local pond? state?
Ive had the last 35 years on midsize bikes with a few liter bikes thrown in.
I just don't find the 1199 a handful, and if I wanted to go slower id buy the expensive overpriced 899. Im sure its a bad ... bike and a blast to ride.
Don't take that the wrong way, I didn't ride the 848 for all its worth, but the 1199 made me quite a bit faster instantly, and is much more comfortable and inspires more confidence. And its not as much of a torture rack.
No way i'd go back to the 899, and for just a little extra cash you get the full meal deal.
Go buy one if you like. I will never be interested no matter how fast you think you are.
Size does have something to do with it.
But if you had any seat time on a stock 848, your hands were full as it threw you wide coming out of the corners, and with less suspension you didn't have as much confidence midcorner.
The 899 will and it sounds like has addressed these issues, and a good rider will do very well and some courses where a smaller bike can and do, hold the course records.
Theres only one thing worse then getting pulled by liter bikes in the straight away when your on a smaller bike. And that's when your on the smaller bike pulling liter bikes
loved that.I never once stated "how fast I was". Not once, man. You come on and tell us how you can ride your 1199 hard and are at the rev limiter all the time, carving canyons, telling us all how you've outgrown the 848, etc. You told me to quit acting like a ...... and I simply responded that if you are so almighty fast and so at the top of the rider ability list with your 1199 as you make it sound to be, we can see just how fast you are.
See, I never claimed to be fast. The number one philosophy that I live by is that no matter how good you are, there is someone better. Even the almighty Rossi is still learning.
Instead of yapping off a mile a minute, maybe sit back and listen and possibly learn something. But instead, you sit and tell us all how it is simply trying to push smaller bikes and that apparently when someone like myself says that the small bikes are very good, you tend to think we are all below your expert level.
I'm willing to piss in your Wheaties... Just say when... Oh, and I will do it on a 600. Twisted - to white courtesy phone... I need your R6...
Whatever, dude. Nobody here is acting like they know it all except you. I stated some pretty simple truths that I can show you examples to back those comments. It's easy to respond that I am a know it all when it goes against what you believe. It's easy.
Anyways, enjoy riding your 1199. It is an amazing machine. Even for us mere mortals that want to be like you when we grow up.
Lighten up Francis, you take this way too seriously.
I simply stated I ride my 1199, it doesnt ride me, and dont find it to be a handful on the street.
I see the guys tactics in the vid. My comments were aginst his assessment, which you want to stick up for.
No problem, we can agree to disagree.
If we were only riding the street, I think you would be hard pressed to get the majority to pick the smaller bike. But that just my opinion.
I thing I think we can both agree on is stopping the perosnal attacks, this is a pretty cool forum, and we dont need to be pissing on each other legs
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Is this really the polemical argument that it is being made into?
Ride the smaller bike harder.
Ride the bigger bike easier.
Enjoy one or both, it is an individual choice as they both have their advantages.
Emphasize the differences or minimize them, or fight, your choice.
Ride the smaller bike harder.
Ride the bigger bike easier.
Enjoy one or both, it is an individual choice as they both have their advantages.
Emphasize the differences or minimize them, or fight, your choice.
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I've done highway 40mph to 130mph roll on's with 848's and I'm sorry, I do NOT concur...2nd gear pulls.
I'm not suggesting an 899 is slow by any means, but to say they're side by side similar rider similar gear from a rolling start isn't completely accurate
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I've done highway 40mph to 130mph roll on's with 848's and I'm sorry, I do NOT concur...2nd gear pulls.
I'm not suggesting an 899 is slow by any means, but to say they're side by side similar rider similar gear from a rolling start isn't completely accurate
I have done this with S1000's.....
...we need another thread about that....
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I've done highway 40mph to 130mph roll on's with 848's and I'm sorry, I do NOT concur...2nd gear pulls.
I'm not suggesting an 899 is slow by any means, but to say they're side by side similar rider similar gear from a rolling start isn't completely accurate
Agreed. Engine performance output is not gear dependent, so as long as you're in the power band there shouldnt be any question of the superior performance characteristics regardless of the gear being selected for comparison. The quarter mile times between the 848 and 1199 alone indicate a half second advantage, which is fairly substantial. If after three years on a bike one is unable to decipher the very distinguishable difference in performance that comes with +80 HP and +36 lb-ft of torque in a package with a slightly lighter overall kerb weight, then either the bike is not truly being pushed or there is some other issue at play.
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Are you saying I should switch my 1199 to "195 hi" instead of low
Second gears usable power is somewhat similar, were not hitting a 1/4 mile in second, nor is it from a dead stop so you can throw that half a second difference out the window for everyday canyon carving.
The 1199 does have more pull but the end results are probably so very close most wont see a major difference. They both hit 100 at the top of second.
I am faster in the tight stuff then the 848 but Id place that on the better suspension larger rear tire giving me confidence to use the added torque more effectively.
The more comfortable you are on a bike the more juice youll throw at it.
I understand there are good reasons why some course records are set with midsized bikes, Im just loving the hell out of this one.
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