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It really goes to show that you can show up to a track day (even the racetrack) and be competitive on a stock V4S. You don’t need a lot of “go fast” bits and bobs. Just time and talent.

Thanks for sharing the video Paul (I was looking all over the place for it and didn’t think of just checking Ducati’s YouTube channel ha!)
LOL, no it shows that the bike can show up to a track day and be competitive, just like it would if Rea showed up on the ZX-10 or Toprak on the R1. Cool marketing video but what’s it for? How many of these pro rider vids has the brand put out now? The need to “belong” sure is powerful.
 
Soooooo I am glad to see there is a thread on this....

The biggest // craziest thing here that no one is bringing up is the PECCO did a 1:35.8 on an ACTUAL V4S. When you see him on one at Misano usually it never has electronic suspension, its an S with elec suspension removed.

Pecco holds the lap record at Misano on his Moto GP bike 1:31.06 - just shy of 5 seconds faster.

2million dollar GP bike vs. 38k V4S
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The law of diminishing returns, in full effect!
 
It really goes to show that you can show up to a track day (even the racetrack) and be competitive on a stock V4S. You don’t need a lot of “go fast” bits and bobs. Just time and talent.

Thanks for sharing the video Paul (I was looking all over the place for it and didn’t think of just checking Ducati’s YouTube channel ha!)

The 'go-fast' bits are already on the bike, 100%!
A lot of the items you swap out, are just for convenience to replace in a crash. Or are easier to adjust than the stock item.
I'd have liked to have seen if all the bikes had the same amount of fork showing above the top yoke.
 
The 'go-fast' bits are already on the bike, 100%!
A lot of the items you swap out, are just for convenience to replace in a crash. Or are easier to adjust than the stock item.
I'd have liked to have seen if all the bikes had the same amount of fork showing above the top yoke.

Adjustment of stock parameters is fair game... still considered a stock bike. I would even say a spring change is reasonable. Still a stock bike adjusted to suit a rider.

Go fast bits like what? Brake pads and tires?
 
The V2's were 4 seconds a lap off the V4's which is remarkable, puts the 2 vs 4 debate re track performance into perspective i.e its not that much for track day riders. Also like the red wings, sexy af and what's your everyones thoughts on the latest wheelbarrow exhausts? They look vulnerable in a slide, whereas the underslung are mostly protected.

Pirro had a low side in QP and I don’t even think a wing broke off. Pretty sure Marini had a tumble at some point too, didn’t see what sort of damage his bike got. I expect with the fixed foot pegs it was enough to keep the exhaust from getting scratched up in most lowsides.
 
Pirro had a low side in QP and I don’t even think a wing broke off. Pretty sure Marini had a tumble at some point too, didn’t see what sort of damage his bike got. I expect with the fixed foot pegs it was enough to keep the exhaust from getting scratched up in most lowsides.

The rear sets are Ducati Performance parts, I might be wrong but their foot pegs aren't fixed.

Well my SF variants aren't fixed unless there's a locking pin i'm unaware of.
 
The rear sets are Ducati Performance parts, I might be wrong but their foot pegs aren't fixed.

Well my SF variants aren't fixed unless there's a locking pin i'm unaware of.

There are set screws hidden in the joint that can be moved to set the pegs to fixed. I doubt that they would hold up in a crash, but they work a lot better for track riding.
 
LOL, no it shows that the bike can show up to a track day and be competitive, just like it would if Rea showed up on the ZX-10 or Toprak on the R1. Cool marketing video but what’s it for? How many of these pro rider vids has the brand put out now? The need to “belong” sure is powerful.

It's a celebration, a joyful occasion, a Ducati party and doing laps at Misano with all your mates without a care in the world sounds like a pretty good time to me👍
 
I'm going to have to check out this set screw nonsense on the Ducati Rizoma rearsets when I get home. I suppose you could always swap them with permanently fixed pegs.
 
LOL, no it shows that the bike can show up to a track day and be competitive, just like it would if Rea showed up on the ZX-10 or Toprak on the R1. Cool marketing video but what’s it for? How many of these pro rider vids has the brand put out now? The need to “belong” sure is powerful.

You’re comparing apples and oranges. But even then as evidence with this event, a basically stock street bike is only 3 sec off the 1 lap pace of a fully-race prepped WSBK machine. Sure, they may not be able to do a full 20 laps at that pace but they’ll be able to do half that distance competitively. I mean you can keep telling yourself that a stock bike is trash but the facts are staring you right in the face that it’s competitive.

I’d love to see WSBK do a series where they jump on bone-stock production bikes. That’d be a spectacle!
 
Did you not know that the bikes were this fast with pro riders and some mods? Did this video really leave anyone with their jaw on the floor in disbelief more that the last one that just came out with similar results? It’s been done over and over. We get it, ....... bikes are crazy fast and they were crazy fast last year and 5 years before that and probably relatively comparable to the top shelf bikes at the time with pro riders yet another video comes out and it’s like an epiphany.

Like I said, cool video but unless you have been living under a rock, I don’t see the “news” here. All these bikes including the 600s and 750s for the most part have far eclipsed the buyers capability for the last 20 years. Not sure what all the fuss is about.

I’m absolutely baffled by the vicarious camaraderie with regards to a brand. Guys wearing sports gear with other guys names on the back, weird .... man.

Sorry, I hz cant read. I think we're on the same page.

There's lots of tribalism in Europe when it comes to sports. They get really into it. Americans are a little less so.
 
There are set screws hidden in the joint that can be moved to set the pegs to fixed. I doubt that they would hold up in a crash, but they work a lot better for track riding.

There's a small grub screw in the hinge pin, which doesn't seem to have any function. In the pic you can see there's a threaded hole just to the right. I suppose you could thread the grub screw in there, but I'd rather get a M5x25mm bolt and thread that in there so the whole length is taken up. As proof of concept I threaded two small M5 bolts into either end and they really do lock the footpeg down. Its strange that the install manual makes no mention of this feature.

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You’re comparing apples and oranges. But even then as evidence with this event, a basically stock street bike is only 3 sec off the 1 lap pace of a fully-race prepped WSBK machine…

I’m skeptical of these lap time comparisons. I mean the factory’s best and brightest engineers are given a stock bike and an extra $200k to spend on mods (for wsbk), and for all that effort and expense they get 3 seconds/lap?

Or when given millions of dollars and a clean sheet prototype design exercise, they get 5 seconds/lap?

Really??

Everyone accepts that as “reasonable”?

I’m wondering if maybe these stock bikes are running wsbk spec tires that are good for a few seconds/lap or something.
 
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I think consistency should be factored into that as well. Earlier in the thread someone said the event was cut to 8 laps due to heat. I'd bet a WSBK or a MotoGP bike would be not only faster, if even by a few seconds, but could maintain that pace for the duration of an entire race, not just 8 laps.
 
I thought this 3 and 5 second times between WSBK and MotoGP were qualifying best hot laps which are much more ideal conditions than a race.

I'm new to this track thing, but I doubt many lap records are set during a race since other riders have a say in your lap time by denying your perfect line, apex to the turns etc.
 

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