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Just had the module installed by at Sebastian's milillimoto, I must say wow! When I say wow it's not a HP wow. The performance this module supplies to the bike is just amazing And I'm not at all exaggerating. The best way I can describe it.. Smooth! Threw out the entire rpm range just smooth running. No lugging/choking/bogging in lower rpm like it needs throttle. Throttle response is amazing. I would say, even without the HP gain I would get this module. Always self tuning as I ride more and more. I know JeffD is going to get the rapid module at some point and I'm sure his reaction will be quite the same. Just amazing. I must say I'm very satisfied with the results.
 
What was Sebs response about your warranty? What exhaust do you have fitted?
Sebastian gave no warning of warranty void. Yaman of cyclepro suggested dealer install for warranty purposes. I run a full akra system with MWR airfilter. Install was relatively quick. A few hiccups being it was something they never seen but they got the job done at a great price too. Very pleased. Sebastian said he had a friend that went with this module as well so I'm sure he'll have some feedback himself. I know Nathan of ducpond has a customer himself that got the module as well. The best part is.. The module is always self tuning as you keep riding.
 
What I'm getting from most members is doing anything to your bike can result in voiding the warranty. But.. it has to be proven that the part you had installed caused and resulted in the failure of whatever went wrong. A good dealer relationship will play a big role I'm sure. And worst comes to worst if you truly feel your mod did not cause the failure and the mechanic said it did.. Legally you can get a second opinion, hire an attorney and fight it. I high doubt ducati want's to shell out money with faulty bikes and would love any excuse to avoid replacement of parts. No different then an insurance company.
 
What was Sebs response about your warranty? What exhaust do you have fitted?

Leon - Chris has the full Akrapovic system, and it is turning a beautiful BLUE


As Chris said, I'm planning on getting the Rapid Bike Race module, which adds ignition mapping as well as some other features. I spoke to Sebastian about the warranty bit and he paraphrased the Magnusson-Moss act just like Chris says above, i.e., the Rapid Bike module has to be shown to be at fault for a warranty claim to be denied. I asked Yaman about the Rapid Bike install and he said it can be removed without any trace of it being installed, if it ever came to that.

I also learned that you don't need the wideband O2 sensors (which would require an ECU reflash to bypass the OEM O2 sensors, another $500), that the Rapid Bike folks are quite proud that the OEM O2 sensors provide enough data, albeit a bit slower than wideband O2s, to effectively tune the system in real time.
 
Leon - Chris has the full Akrapovic system, and it is turning a beautiful BLUE


As Chris said, I'm planning on getting the Rapid Bike Race module, which adds ignition mapping as well as some other features. I spoke to Sebastian about the warranty bit and he paraphrased the Magnusson-Moss act just like Chris says above, i.e., the Rapid Bike module has to be shown to be at fault for a warranty claim to be denied. I asked Yaman about the Rapid Bike install and he said it can be removed without any trace of it being installed, if it ever came to that.

I also learned that you don't need the wideband O2 sensors (which would require an ECU reflash to bypass the OEM O2 sensors, another $500), that the Rapid Bike folks are quite proud that the OEM O2 sensors provide enough data, albeit a bit slower than wideband O2s, to effectively tune the system in real time.

So your going to fit this on your 1199? Has anyone else done this with how it behaves on the track?

Thanks.
 
Thamer, Yaman has the Termi slipons and ran it at our last track at PBIR. His bike ran pretty strong. I know I had a hard time keeping up on the one straight away we were flying down. But I'm also 50lbs heavier than Yaman, and my bike is stock, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. I plan on going full Akra and this seems like a good option. I might also do some engine mods as well( thinner head gasket, maybe conrods)....
 
So your going to fit this on your 1199? Has anyone else done this with how it behaves on the track?

Thanks.

Yes, what Leon (Ljuice26) said. As Chris stated in the original post above, I'm not expecting a peak power increase - my bike already dyno'd at 179, 4.25 hp off of a 2013 HP4 with Akrapovic on the same dyno/day/operator - but definitely more "area under the curve" and smoother throttle response. Here is a scan of my dyno run and you can see how ridiculously rich the AFR is throughout most of the rev range. This is with an MWR HE filter, Termignoni Slip-Ons and Termi slip Up-Map.

 
I still have a Rapidbike racing unit that I don't use, half price plus shipping if anyone is interested.
 
Any A/F tuning will make your bike run better than the stock crappy maps that comes from the factory. Not blaming Ducati or any other manufacturer but the stupid EPA regulations they are forced to comply with.
 
Sorry to stray from topic but how does an "VERY" rich factory tune help a bike pass "STRENGENT" EPA regulations?

I read these two things every time the factory tune comes up.

I think that this bike had a harder time with noise emissions than gas emissions. It's a LOUD bike. Does a richer mix do anything to help quiet a motor or exhaust note?

I guarantee that the 39T sprocket was used to keep the rpm's lower for the whatever speed pass, in whatever gear, to pass noise emission standards. Barely.
 
Sorry to stray from topic but how does an "VERY" rich factory tune help a bike pass "STRENGENT" EPA regulations?

I read these two things every time the factory tune comes up.

I think that this bike had a harder time with noise emissions than gas emissions. It's a LOUD bike. Does a richer mix do anything to help quiet a motor or exhaust note?

I guarantee that the 39T sprocket was used to keep the rpm's lower for the whatever speed pass, in whatever gear, to pass noise emission standards. Barely.

Not sure but mine was lean as hell
 
Yaman, what's the difference between the two Rapidbike versions?

Main difference is , ignition timing, units come premapped for Panigale. Ignition map and base fuel injection mapping to start with
Race also comes with pit lane limiter function, with a switch you can set you pit lane speed for any RPM and gear individually and adjustment of engine breaking.
Evo system doesn't do:
Ignition timing
Engine brake
Pit Lane limiter

Both are quick shift ready and highly adjustable, one sensor does GP or normal shift.

but is still has adaptive fuel injection for individual cylinders along with fuel injection mapping.
another good future is , the both units are re programmable if you get a different bike it can be used again with a new wiring harness.
if you actually priced PCV with ignition module and Auto Tune (which is a data logger and does not do both cylinders) Race system is cheaper.
PS: IGNITION MAPPING IS ALREADY DONE WITH THE RACE UNIT: If your tuner has a DynoJet 250i, good luck with the ignition mapping! 250i does not give you a HP or TQ numbers while holding the bike at certain RPM and TP. in order to create a ignition mapping, torque output is usually used while holding the RPM and throttle position steady while reading the Tq on screen and making appropriate changes. This process is very hard on the bike and time consuming.
 
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Any A/F tuning will make your bike run better than the stock crappy maps that comes from the factory. Not blaming Ducati or any other manufacturer but the stupid EPA regulations they are forced to comply with.

The Termi maps are for "off-road use only" so they're not developed to satisfy any emissions (gas or sound) requirements. The thing I don't like about ECU re-flashing or Up-Maps is that they are developed typically on one or a few bikes, in one geographic location. Termi maps are likely made in northern Italy on Euro bikes with Euro gas. How that hell is that supposed to be perfect for my my bike, at sea-level in FL with Ethanol-infused 93 octane?

That's why the Rapid Bike Race system makes sense to me. The Italians that program it have to start with base maps the same as Termi/Ducati, but then their system reads the O2 sensors and then auto-adjusts to make a truly custom map in real time, all the time, based on current bike and atmospheric conditions. Sound like the best option to me, theoretically anyway. Certain worth a try for my money and I will report my results.
 
The Termi maps are for "off-road use only" so they're not developed to satisfy any emissions (gas or sound) requirements. The thing I don't like about ECU re-flashing or Up-Maps is that they are developed typically on one or a few bikes, in one geographic location. Termi maps are likely made in northern Italy on Euro bikes with Euro gas. How that hell is that supposed to be perfect for my my bike, at sea-level in FL with Ethanol-infused 93 octane?

That's why the Rapid Bike Race system makes sense to me. The Italians that program it have to start with base maps the same as Termi/Ducati, but then their system reads the O2 sensors and then auto-adjusts to make a truly custom map in real time, all the time, based on current bike and atmospheric conditions. Sound like the best option to me, theoretically anyway. Certain worth a try for my money and I will report my results.

I agree.

I'd love to hear more first hand impressions and see a dyno or two. For science.
 

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